[Freedos-user] How to make FreeDOS display correctly the ã character

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

 Frantisek Rysanek said:

> If that's true, I would call this a 
> bug in the FreeDOS EGA.CPX ...?
> Just fabulating, I haven't 
> analyzed this deeper.

It is not a bug in FreeDOS, but a bug in 
codepage 850. ã is missing from it in 
every DOS I looked at.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Dial-up emulation

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

Robert Riebisch said:
> This collection of **packet drivers** is still available at
> . And packet drivers are typically for
> Ethernet network cards, not modems.

Thank you for pointing that most modems do
not need device drivers. I had not used
one for over 10 years. External modems mostly
use a COM port and internal ones emulate one in
hardware/firmware. But they still need dialers
and use packet drivers for internet access.
This is what LSPPP and DOSPPP are all about.
Maybe there aren"t PPP packet drivers in Crynwr;
I did not look.

This is, however, a digression from the
Brandon Taylor problem. Why does he want
to use dial-up emulation for internet access?
He did not mention what kind of physical
network his computer is connected to,



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[Freedos-user] How can I make FreeDOS display correctly the â

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

 I also had this problem, For some reason, the ã
is missing from codepage 850. I use codepage 860 
instead, which is the "official" Portuguese codepage.
 Or you may use Windows-1252 codepage, if this is
available. 



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Re: [Freedos-user] Dial-up emulation

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

 Tomas said:
 > network card =/= modem

 I never said nor implied they are the same.
 I said that, if an user has a machine with a network card,
 and a suitable DOS driver for the card is available, he/she
 may use it, instead of setting a dial-up connection.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Dial-uo emulation ?

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

Brandon Taylor said:

 > Well, I did find a nice package in the
 > FreeDOS repository called LSPPP. Would that work better?

  It shall work if you have an internet service
 provider that supports a PPP connection.
  Anyway, you will still need a modem driver for
 DOS. There used to be many of them in old
 software repositories as the Crynwr collection.
  It seems that you already have internet access.
 If it is by an Ethernet LAN through a gateway,
 you may use it under DOS too. You will need
 a DOS device driver for your Ethernet card.
 A difference between DOS and Windows or Linux
is that DOS does not autodetects nor autoinstalls
hardware drivers. Nor are DOS hardware drivers
the same used by other O/Ss; you have to find
and install them yourself.
 Excuse me if I am attempting to explain the obvious,
but it also seems that you are a newbie to DOS.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Way or utility in Freedos to have two applications running

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

 Liam Proven said:

> Just use archive.org or archive.ph
> or archive.is or any one of lots
> of others.

  Yes, it is available from the Wayback
 machine. Thanks.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Way or utility in Freedos to have two applications running

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

 tsiegel said:

 > Actually, I did find one article that explains the multitasking versions
 > of dos quite clearly.
 > https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4363978/myth-dos-does-not-multitask
 > it doesn't cover all the versions of dos, but it does a good job of
 > hitting most of the major ones that did multitask dos programs.

  I tried the above link and got the reply:

 > Because of Brazilian government demands to remove creators
 > from our platform, Locals is currently unavailable in Brazil

 Would someone please provide a copy of this article in a platform
 that is not at odds with Brazilian courts ?



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[Freedos-user] What cd-rom drivers does FreeDOS use ?

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

Karen Llewellen said:
> The driver providing an issue is one called vide_cdd

 Would you please tell what is the issue ?



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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS based mail clients

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

 Bret Johnson said:
 > The second difference is that IMAP is designed
 > to be used in a client-server configuration where
 > the e-mails stay stored on the server...

  But they also remain in the server if the POP3 client
  does not send the DELE command.


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS or DOS based mail clients

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

  This is not strictly a DOS remark;
 it applies to any e-mail but I think it
 can appear here.

  Eric Auer said:

 > PS: The older POP3 only allowed access to the inbox,
 > while IMAP also allows access to your other mail folders,
 > so I expect most mail providers to support IMAP now.

  I thought that folders were a client-side
 convention, and mail (POP3, IMAP) servers kept
 all incoming mail to one address together.
  Webmail, that uses http(s) to access mail as
 links in a webpage is another story.



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[Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?

[Jose Senna via Freedos-user]

 If this is of any help, you can set an
80x28 resolution in VGA by selecting
an 8x14 pixel font, instead of the more
common 8x16. Some even look better.
 It is also possible to set the screen
mode to an SVGA or higher resolution,
but not all modes support BIOS text
functions, and you need these for DOS
output. What will work depends on the
video card.




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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

[Jose Senna]

 Vacek Nules said:

> I'd like to ask the community's opinion and possible
> endorsements to get the UTC to accept the [Forint] symbol

  Is the Forint still in use in Hungary ?
  Does Unicode still have vacant space in
 its character table?


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[Freedos-user] Tex et. al

[Jose Senna]

 Jim Hall said:
| It was cheaper to render the document on my
| DOS PC in my room, and print to my Epson printer.

  Please, how did you render TeX format in the PC then ?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Creating a minimal freeDOS bootable image that runs...

[Jose Senna]

  Jim Hall said:
 > The /P switch in FreeCOM says that
 > COMMAND.COM is a permanent shell,
 > so it never exits (the EXIT command
 > does nothing). That /P ("permanent")
 > feature probably doesn't exist on
 > other applications, because they
 > don't need it.

  Then  you mean the /P switch is a directive
 to the shell going to be installed, not to
 the currently running command interpreter.
  I did not know it was so. I thought the
 current interpreter would load the new
 shell as its own parent.

  I am drifting off-topic - perhaps
 I shall open a new thread if this
 conversation extends.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Creating a minimal freeDOS bootable image that runs a simple text editor

[Jose Senna]

  Jim Hall said:

 | Let's say you wanted to run FreeDOS EDIT every time FreeDOS boots up.
 | The full path to EDIT is C:\FREEDOS\BIN\EDIT.EXE, so you would create
 | a custom FDCONFIG.SYS that probably looked like this:
 |
 | FILES=20
 | BUFFERS=20
 | SHELL=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\EDIT.EXE
 |
 | For #2, see also this note at the end of the article:
 |
 | > However, there's one limitation here. Embedded systems do not usually need
 | > to exit back to a command prompt, so these dedicated applications don't
 | > usually allow the user to quit to DOS. If you manage to exit the embedded
 | > application, you'll likely see a "Bad or missing Command Interpreter"
 | > prompt, where you'll need to enter the full path to a new shell. For a
 | > user-focused desktop system, this would be a problem. But on an embedded
 | > system that's dedicated to doing only one job, you should never need to
 | > exit anyway.

  What if you use the /P switch when loading the shell?



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[Freedos-user] I never saw one

[Jose Senna]

Eric Auer said:
> I would certainly prefer manual
> partitioning over autocreated
> FAT16 C: to ZZZ9: drives of which
> only C: gets formatted anyway ;-)

Is it possible to have a ZZZ9: drive
 in DOS (or other many letter ID) ?



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[Freedos-user] ECHO vs @ECHO

[Jose Senna]

 Bret Johnson said:

 | In older versions of MS- and PC-DOS (prior to version 3.3),
 |and all versions of DR-DOS, the "@ECHO OFF" command does
 |not work at the beginning of batch files.

  I have not used any DOS for some months but, as far as  I
 remember, @ECHO OFF  worked with DR-DOS 5.



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[Freedos-user] State of play

[Jose Senna]

Paul Edwards asked:

| I'd like to ask a more fundamental question - why does
| video not require a driver to be installed, but audio does?
| Is audio more complicated than video or something? Or
| was it never properly standardized by IBM or someone?
|
  I think it is because the PC always had video, 
 (there may be some special machines that don´t) 
  so there are video functions built in the BIOS,
  while audio cards were always add-ons.  

| Next question is - what does emm have to do with a
| sound card driver?
  EMM has everything to do with memory management,
  which is probably required by the audio card.



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[Freedos-user] State of play

[Jose Senna]

Paul Edwards said

| In particular I want:
|
| 1. Something to display JPEGs
|
| ...
|
| 4. Something to read and write text email
|
| 5. Something to send/receive email to gmail.
I am expecting this to be DOS-specific


For 1) above, I recommend LXPic:
http://hplx.pgdn.de
It is small, fast even on old machines
and can display one image at a time or
many together. It is also the only
viewer I know that is not limited by
memory size (can swap data to disk,
albeit at much reduced speed). It´s
only shortcoming is that it does not
display .PNG images, just JPEG, GIF
and HPGL.

For 4), any text editor would do, if
you can save nessages to file. I used
e3 in plain DOS and use Notepad under
Windows,

For 5) I do not know of any solution.
Until about 2010 I used Lynx with HTTP
mail services, but nowadays they have
too much Javascript to work for Lynx
(or Links) and require TLS, which
AFAIK, is not available in any DOS
internet program.

I do not know about MP3 nor MP4 DOS
players.



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[Freedos-user] Country code

[Jose Senna]

 This has drifted quite apart from the original subject,
 I will post.
 Robert Riebisch said:

 | why I should talk to 4 different mail servers. I have one
 | mailbox with multiple addresses and that's fine.

  One reason is that if a mail server does not work well, as
 this did for most of past year, there is another to try.


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[Freedos-user] MicroWeb

[Jose Senna]

Liam Proven said about MicroWeb:

 | Limitations
 |
 | HTTP only (no HTTPS support)
 | No CSS or Javascript
 | Very long pages may be truncated if
 | there is not enough RAM available

 Then DOSLynx
 http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/doslynx.htm
 is probably more useful.



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[Freedos-user] Message delivered

[Jose Senna]

 My message appeared on the list afer all.
 I shall thank Jim Hall and the others at
Sourceforge who solved this problem.



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[Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be mantained

[Jose Senna]

Liam Proven said:
> There were DOS email and chat and FTP
> clients; that stuff's fairly easy.

Were is the right word. Most email
servers nowadays require TLS, which
is not available in DOS email clients.
There are few remaining FTP servers,
and I cannot tell how many also need
TLS.
I never used chat.


PS - I sent a copy directly to Liam Proven because the mail
filter at Sourceforge will probably reject this message.


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[Freedos-user] Command line

[Jose Senna]

 Did anyone else look at this ?
  https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00263-0
 Command line is still (much) alive.



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Re: [Freedos-user] What is the freedos fish ?

[Jose Senna]

> I had always assumed that it was a whale because other operating
> systems are large and bloated and a whale would be irony.

 I also thought it was a whale, but because it is a threatened species...



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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ethernet drivers

[Jose Senna]

 Greg Gerke asked:
> ...has anybody tried Lynx on FreeDOS ?

  I used it for quite a few years, but
 now Lynx is (almost) no good, because
  -No Javascript
  -Obsolete secure protocols
  -Incorrect renderizing of frames, tables
  -Few sites still provide pages suitable for
text-mode browsers.

  Anyway, trying it will do no harm.



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[Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

[Jose Senna]

 The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
know of are recent versions of Links.



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[Freedos-user] DOS/16M

[Jose Senna]

 Randon Liegh said:
>I'm not sure what DOS16/m is -it sounds like a DPMI server? If so, then it 
>provides 32-bit addressing >to dos programs.

 AFA I remember, DOS/16M is a DOS extender to allow use of DOS in protected 
mode.
 It predates DPMI specification and is geared towards the 16-bit protected mode
 available in the '286.



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