Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

[Mikkel C. Simonsen]

From: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" <m...@post5.tele.dk>


dmccunney wrote:
> Only existing OS/2 users run OS/2 apps, I don't think *anyone* runs
> Win 3.1 apps,

I do, so there's at least one... PageMaker, CorelDRAW! and Photoshop is
in regular use. And also more spezialised stuff like Keil -|Vision and
some filter design tools.

> Tell me why anyone who *isn't* already an OS/2 user might get this?

Probably none - and so what?

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Mikkel


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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI US

[MIKKEL C. SIMONSEN]

From: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" <m...@post5.tele.dk>

lw3eov wrote:
> Dear FreeDOS users,
>
> Please help me with the following:
>
> If I buy one of those cheap PCI to USB adapters on ebay, will it work in a
> Pentium@120Mhz using freedos or another D.O.S. version? Will I be able to
> boot or at least use it after booting from another device?
>
> For a SATA hard disk for the same pentium PC: PCI to SATA adapter or IDE to
> SATA adapter, What is best?

IDE to SATA will generally work without problems - as long as the SATA
disk is within the size supported by the BIOS. I have upgraded many old
PCs and Macs with SSDs using IDE to SATA adapters. The general size
limit is 137GB - but could be much lower, if you have an ancient BIOS.

Best regards,

Mikkel

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Re: [Freedos-user] Quattro Pro releases

[Mikkel C. Simonsen]

dmccunney wrote:
> Only existing OS/2 users run OS/2 apps, I don't think *anyone* runs
> Win 3.1 apps,

I do, so there's at least one... PageMaker, CorelDRAW! and Photoshop is 
in regular use. And also more spezialised stuff like Keil µVision and 
some filter design tools.

> Tell me why anyone who *isn't* already an OS/2 user might get this?

Probably none - and so what?

Best regards,

Mikkel


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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI USB adapters - PCI SATA adapters - IDE SATA adapters

[Mikkel C. Simonsen]

lw3eov wrote:
> Dear FreeDOS users,
> 
> Please help me with the following:
> 
> If I buy one of those cheap PCI to USB adapters on ebay, will it work in a
> Pentium@120Mhz using freedos or another D.O.S. version? Will I be able to
> boot or at least use it after booting from another device?
> 
> For a SATA hard disk for the same pentium PC: PCI to SATA adapter or IDE to
> SATA adapter, What is best?

IDE to SATA will generally work without problems - as long as the SATA 
disk is within the size supported by the BIOS. I have upgraded many old 
PCs and Macs with SSDs using IDE to SATA adapters. The general size 
limit is 137GB - but could be much lower, if you have an ancient BIOS.

Best regards,

Mikkel

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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot FreeDOS (Black screen/blinking cursor)

[Mikkel C. Simonsen]

Don Flowers wrote:
> If I am not mistaken FreeDOS unzip will extract the file. Here's the 
> text how to:
> ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp39501-4/sp39596.html

No, unzip has this to say:

Archive:  sp39596.exe
   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
   the last disk(s) of this archive.
note:  sp39596.exe may be a plain executable, not an archive
unzip:  can't find zipfile directory in sp39596.exe,
 and can't find sp39596.exe.zip, period.

No idea why they would supply a DOS-driver with a win32 installer...

When I ran the installer, it just unpacked the files in the c:\swsetup 
directory, without asking where to put the files. But that may be a 
limitation of the OS/2 win32 support.

Best regards,

Mikkel

> 
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Mikkel C. Simonsen <m...@post5.tele.dk 
> <mailto:m...@post5.tele.dk>> wrote:
> 
> Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote:
> >  Assuming the EXE is an executable archive, you could use the free
> DOSBox or Virtual Box on Linux to extract the exe.
> 
> It's actually a win32 installer. But it runs just fine on OS/2 :)
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Mikkel
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot FreeDOS (Black screen/blinking cursor)

[Mikkel C. Simonsen]

Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote:
> Assuming the EXE is an executable archive, you could use the free DOSBox or 
> Virtual Box on Linux to extract the exe.

It's actually a win32 installer. But it runs just fine on OS/2 :)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot FreeDOS (Black screen/blinking cursor)

[Mikkel C. Simonsen]

matthew berardi wrote:
> Any idea where I might be able to get those files without running an 
> .exe. I can't run an exe, at least not until I get FreeDOS installed.

I can send you the contents as a zip file. But gmail will not allow a 
zip file containing (among other things) exe files. So send me a 
non-gmail e-mail address, and I will send you the files.

Best regards,

Mikkel


> 
> Thanks!
> Matt
> 
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:56 AM, Don Flowers  > wrote:
> 
> You are going to need to download this:
> ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp39501-4/sp39596.exe
> 
> And then you need to download Jerome's FDI image and and substitute
> the AHCI.SYS driver for the UIDE/UDVD driver. On my Acer laptop and
> that's the only thing that works for me. This will give access to
> the hard drive. Once you have the hard drive formatted and "SYSed"
> Report back,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> > wrote:
> 
> Hello Matt,
> 
> >  In the Boot tab in my BIOS, the menu for Xst Boot has CD, USB
> Floppy, USB CD, etc, etc and UEFI at the bottom. Usually I have
> UEFI as first and only boot. However, I've changed it to USB
> Floppy (I dunno why it thinks it's a floppy) as first and only,
> no UEFI. I can't see any option to disable UEFI more than that.
> 
> When you try to boot the image, if you only see a blank screen
> with blinking cursor, and you never see the “FreeDOS kernel
> 2041……..” messages, the kernel is either not compatible or is
> not being loaded. Unfortunately, I don’t know enough about your
> specific hardware. So, I cannot say if it is not compatible with
> FreeDOS. Or, what exact settings you would need to make to get
> it to run the OS.
> 
> Perhaps, if you submit the information for your BIOS
> manufacturer and version, someone may know exactly what to
> change. Or, possibly may be familiar with getting FreeDOS to
> work in a similar situation.
> 
> Sorry that I could not be of greater assistance.
> 
> Jerome
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Re: [Freedos-user] [Fwd: Re: Unhandled exception 000E]

[Mikkel C. Simonsen]

sunbeam...@juno.com wrote:
 Will lay01 run on dos without windows or any other high level
 OS. I didn't see any download for a dos version. It looks
 like they support it if you are still using it.

The DOS version is not supported anymore. I received the last update 
(version 7.02) more than 10 years ago. And that version is not pure 
dos, because one of the exe files is a PE. But using HXRT it does run - 
and much better than it does under XP.

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[Freedos-user] [Fwd: Re: Unhandled exception 000E]

[Mikkel C. Simonsen]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Unhandled exception 000E
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:45:09 +0200
From: Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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freedos-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk wrote:
 I have just installed FreeDOS to run an old PCB editor.
 
 What name? Date? Files? Using RTM/DPMI16, I presume?

Layo1. And yes it uses RTM.EXE and DPMI16BI.OVL. But there's a twist -
it includes a PE executable as well in the latest version. This latest
version runs on XP (but only in 640*480...), but not on OS/2 (HXRT
doesn't work). But HXRT on FreeDOS appears to solve both problems.

 When I try to run the executables, I get the error
 Unhandled exception 000E at 0020 1AA4 ErrCode 0002
 
 What memory managers are loaded? JEMMEX? HIMEMX only?

I use the option Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM
free

 Another user on BTTR recently had a similar problem (again). His
 suggested workaround was DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE ALTBOOT
 MAX=32000 MIN=32000.
 
 Japheth (circa 2011) explicitly blamed the bug on Borland's DOS
 extender. His suggested workaround was this:
 
 
 1. Option /R63 for UIDE, which makes UIDE not use extended memory from
 the first 64 MB, must be set.
 2. Option /X2MAX32 for HimemX, which makes HimemX restrict XMS v2 max.
 memory to 32 MB, must also be set.
 
 
 I did some more experimenting, and it looks like running hdpmi16
 followed by hdpmi32 provides a more permanent fix.
 
 Okay, good. Yes, obviously, Borland's old extenders weren't tested on
 modern machines. (BTW, how much total RAM do you have?)

128MB, with 4MB used for graphics. The system is a Vortex86 SBC - the
original version without extra alphabet soup.

 But why does the error occur under FreeDOS? Running the same package in
 an OS/2 or WinXP VDM does not produce the error.
 
 OS/2 and NTVDM both have separate DPMI servers that were tested
 differently. They usually throttle the amount of total RAM seen by DOS
 extended apps.

Yes. I checked the DOS settings used in the OS/2 VDM, and EMS/XMS is
limited to 8MB and DPMI memory to 16MB.

 I have tried all three memory options from the boot menu - they do not
 appear to change anything.
 
 It depends on how much RAM you have, and what options to the memory
 managers and extenders, and their versions, etc. Try one of the above
 suggested workarounds.

I will have a go.

Sorry about the slow answer - I received your reply in a digest after
several days, so I missed it.

Best regards,

Mikkel



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[Freedos-user] Unhandled exception 000E

[Mikkel C. Simonsen]

I have just installed FreeDOS to run an old PCB editor. When I try to 
run the executables, I get the error Unhandled exception 000E at 0020 
1AA4 ErrCode 0002

In an old post from japheth, he wrote that the error is from the Borland 
loader. He also suggested running hdpmi16 (from HXRT) prior to the 
troublesome executable, and that does fix it (temporarily). hdpmi16 is 
unloaded once the programme exits.

I did some more experimenting, and it looks like running hdpmi16 
followed by hdpmi32 provides a more permanent fix.

But why does the error occur under FreeDOS? Running the same package in 
an OS/2 or WinXP VDM does not produce the error.

I have tried all three memory options from the boot menu - they do not 
appear to change anything.

Best regards,

Mikkel

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