Re: [Freedos-user] A Linux question or puzzle to me...

2020-11-18 Thread Joao Silva
Hello.

I'll check it out, but photorec (used to restore partition/files) won't
work , i think,   unless i find a way to mount the partition.

Any idea is a good idea.

Thank you.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:54 AM Geraldo Netto 
wrote:

> Hi Joao/All,
>
> Maybe you could try the system rescue cd: https://www.system-rescue.org/
> it's a gentoo livecd/usb linux that contains tons of tools for disk
> management/rescue
> including gparted (graphical partitioning tool) and photorec (used to
> restore partition/files)
>
>
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> On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 11:03, Joao Silva  wrote:
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > All i want is to copy a folder with a lot of photos, my ubuntu only
> mounts 2 partitions and nothing with the partitions with the files i want.
> > I'll keep searching, I have the HDD for 3 years now, and the warranty is
> long gone.
> >
> > I don't quit easily!
> >
> > Thank you for all the help.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:55 PM Eric Auer  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi! Have you tried to have the disk exchanged
> >> under warranty? Or are you trying to avoid loss
> >> of data / avoid the repair people accessing it?
> >>
> >> As I have no clue what could be broken in your
> >> box, if you only want to rescue the data, the
> >> best method without giving it away would be to
> >> connect the harddisks inside the box directly
> >> and internally to a Linux computer and see how
> >> far you get accessing the raw partitions. Some
> >> will contain the OS of the box, some will hold
> >> config or temp data and some will have those
> >> files which would normally be network accessed.
> >>
> >> Regards, Eric
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > I tried the reset button several times without luck.
> >>
> >> What exactly happened in that process? Remember that
> >> the disk has to be ON and you have the button for a
> >> LONG time and it is deep behind that hole in the case.
> >> After starting the process, it can take 10 minutes.
> >>
> >> > I think the problem lies on the OS/case part,
> >> > the HDD works well, no clicking.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Freedos-user] A Linux question or puzzle to me...

2020-11-18 Thread Geraldo Netto
Hi Joao/All,

Maybe you could try the system rescue cd: https://www.system-rescue.org/
it's a gentoo livecd/usb linux that contains tons of tools for disk
management/rescue
including gparted (graphical partitioning tool) and photorec (used to
restore partition/files)


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On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 11:03, Joao Silva  wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> All i want is to copy a folder with a lot of photos, my ubuntu only mounts 2 
> partitions and nothing with the partitions with the files i want.
> I'll keep searching, I have the HDD for 3 years now, and the warranty is long 
> gone.
>
> I don't quit easily!
>
> Thank you for all the help.
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:55 PM Eric Auer  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi! Have you tried to have the disk exchanged
>> under warranty? Or are you trying to avoid loss
>> of data / avoid the repair people accessing it?
>>
>> As I have no clue what could be broken in your
>> box, if you only want to rescue the data, the
>> best method without giving it away would be to
>> connect the harddisks inside the box directly
>> and internally to a Linux computer and see how
>> far you get accessing the raw partitions. Some
>> will contain the OS of the box, some will hold
>> config or temp data and some will have those
>> files which would normally be network accessed.
>>
>> Regards, Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> > I tried the reset button several times without luck.
>>
>> What exactly happened in that process? Remember that
>> the disk has to be ON and you have the button for a
>> LONG time and it is deep behind that hole in the case.
>> After starting the process, it can take 10 minutes.
>>
>> > I think the problem lies on the OS/case part,
>> > the HDD works well, no clicking.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] A Linux question or puzzle to me...

2020-11-18 Thread Joao Silva
Hello.

All i want is to copy a folder with a lot of photos, my ubuntu only mounts
2 partitions and nothing with the partitions with the files i want.
I'll keep searching, I have the HDD for 3 years now, and the warranty is
long gone.

I don't quit easily!

Thank you for all the help.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:55 PM Eric Auer  wrote:

>
>
> Hi! Have you tried to have the disk exchanged
> under warranty? Or are you trying to avoid loss
> of data / avoid the repair people accessing it?
>
> As I have no clue what could be broken in your
> box, if you only want to rescue the data, the
> best method without giving it away would be to
> connect the harddisks inside the box directly
> and internally to a Linux computer and see how
> far you get accessing the raw partitions. Some
> will contain the OS of the box, some will hold
> config or temp data and some will have those
> files which would normally be network accessed.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
>
> > I tried the reset button several times without luck.
>
> What exactly happened in that process? Remember that
> the disk has to be ON and you have the button for a
> LONG time and it is deep behind that hole in the case.
> After starting the process, it can take 10 minutes.
>
> > I think the problem lies on the OS/case part,
> > the HDD works well, no clicking.
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] A Linux question or puzzle to me...

2020-11-17 Thread Eric Auer



Hi! Have you tried to have the disk exchanged
under warranty? Or are you trying to avoid loss
of data / avoid the repair people accessing it?

As I have no clue what could be broken in your
box, if you only want to rescue the data, the
best method without giving it away would be to
connect the harddisks inside the box directly
and internally to a Linux computer and see how
far you get accessing the raw partitions. Some
will contain the OS of the box, some will hold
config or temp data and some will have those
files which would normally be network accessed.

Regards, Eric



> I tried the reset button several times without luck.

What exactly happened in that process? Remember that
the disk has to be ON and you have the button for a
LONG time and it is deep behind that hole in the case.
After starting the process, it can take 10 minutes.

> I think the problem lies on the OS/case part,
> the HDD works well, no clicking.



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Re: [Freedos-user] A Linux question or puzzle to me...

2020-11-17 Thread Joao Silva
Hi.

I tried the reset button several times without luck.

I think the problem lies on the OS/case part, the HDD works well, no
clicking.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 6:51 PM Eric Auer  wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> > Is a Lacie CloudBox with RJ45, my box is 3TB and a 2TB (no HDD)
>
> The handbook on lacie.com says:
>
>
> http://manuals.lacie.com/en/manuals/cb/06_advanced_access/advanced-access02-ftp
>
> You can use http, ftp, sftp, streaming... default
> seems to be smb or similar windows network drive.
>
> Windows xp, macos 10.5 and Linux 2.6 are minimum
> requirements.
>
> It does not seem to support any type of network
> boot service with the default firmware, nor boot
> of the box itself from external network servers.
>
> > What i meant to say was, the CloudBox OS can't boot the HDD, there-
> > fore there is no ip address for windows/linux to connect to.
>
> In other words, your NAS box is broken because the
> built-in operating system of the cloudbox broke?
>
> The handbook says you can do this to re-install itself
> from an internal backup, similar to other recoveries:
>
> http://manuals.lacie.com/en/manuals/cb/07_device/reset
>
> Takes 10 minutes - do not disturb the box in that time.
>
> If the blue led is off, there might be a power supply
> issue, also if it flickers for a long time. if there
> is loud and frequent clicking, the harddisks inside
> may have a hardware problem.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] A Linux question or puzzle to me...

2020-11-17 Thread Eric Auer


Hi!

> Is a Lacie CloudBox with RJ45, my box is 3TB and a 2TB (no HDD)

The handbook on lacie.com says:

http://manuals.lacie.com/en/manuals/cb/06_advanced_access/advanced-access02-ftp

You can use http, ftp, sftp, streaming... default
seems to be smb or similar windows network drive.

Windows xp, macos 10.5 and Linux 2.6 are minimum
requirements.

It does not seem to support any type of network
boot service with the default firmware, nor boot
of the box itself from external network servers.

> What i meant to say was, the CloudBox OS can't boot the HDD, there-
> fore there is no ip address for windows/linux to connect to.

In other words, your NAS box is broken because the
built-in operating system of the cloudbox broke?

The handbook says you can do this to re-install itself
from an internal backup, similar to other recoveries:

http://manuals.lacie.com/en/manuals/cb/07_device/reset

Takes 10 minutes - do not disturb the box in that time.

If the blue led is off, there might be a power supply
issue, also if it flickers for a long time. if there
is loud and frequent clicking, the harddisks inside
may have a hardware problem.

Regards, Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] A Linux question or puzzle to me...

2020-11-17 Thread Joao Silva
Hello.

Is a Lacie CloudBox with RJ45, my box is 3TB and a 2TB (no HDD)

I can see several partitions but can access only 2. The other partitions
are in raid operated by the cloudbox.

The CloudBox uses a 3TB Sata HDD

" Please explain. You do not normally boot from network
harddisks, although you can boot from the network for
thin client purposes. For that, you have to provide a
BOOTP / DHCP / TFTP / similar server and configure a
virtual boot disk. Not sure if NAS tend to support it."

What i meant to say was, the CloudBox OS can't boot the HDD, therefore
there is no ip address for windows/linux to connect to.

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/143651810765_/Lacie-Cloudbox-3TB-Hard-Drive-Huge-Memory-Storage.jpg

https://moviesgamesandtech.com/2012/12/12/product-review-lacie-cloudbox/4/



On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 2:40 PM Eric Auer  wrote:

> Hi Joao Silva,
>
> > I have a Lacie external HDD with RJ45 with a 3TB HDD and I
> > can't boot the HDD.
>
> Are you sure that it is RJ45? A network disk or NAS? Not USB?
>
> > * Windows can't access the partitions because is Linux...
> > * Tried in Ubuntu and only mounted 2 partitions of 8 or 10
>
> What did it do with the other partitions? Have you connected
> it directly or over the network? Maybe the other partitions
> are only for the NAS server operating system installed on it?
>
> > it seems that the HDD is in some kind of RAID.
>
> Depending on the age, it is possible that it is not just one
> disk internally, but two or more, yes.
>
> > A friend who owns an IT Store got me another HDD case
> > from a 2TB case, but the same, it wont boot the HDD.
>
> Please explain. You do not normally boot from network
> harddisks, although you can boot from the network for
> thin client purposes. For that, you have to provide a
> BOOTP / DHCP / TFTP / similar server and configure a
> virtual boot disk. Not sure if NAS tend to support it.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment
>
> Apart from that, network disks are meant for accessing
> them as network drives, not as boot drives, I think.
>
> If you just want to access files, that should be fine,
> but if some files are not accessible, it could be easier
> to connect the disk more directly, via USB or SATA, not
> as external network drive somewhere further away.
>
> Note that 3 TB is more than the 2 TB limit of MBR style
> partitioning at 512 byte sector size. Your disk will
> probably use 4096 byte sectors and/or UEFI GBP partition
> style, which only newer operating system versions support.
>
> But as said - if this is a network disk, partitioning is
> probably not the main problem when it comes to booting.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] A Linux question or puzzle to me...

2020-11-17 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Joao Silva,

> I have a Lacie external HDD with RJ45 with a 3TB HDD and I
> can't boot the HDD.

Are you sure that it is RJ45? A network disk or NAS? Not USB?

> * Windows can't access the partitions because is Linux...
> * Tried in Ubuntu and only mounted 2 partitions of 8 or 10

What did it do with the other partitions? Have you connected
it directly or over the network? Maybe the other partitions
are only for the NAS server operating system installed on it?

> it seems that the HDD is in some kind of RAID.

Depending on the age, it is possible that it is not just one
disk internally, but two or more, yes.

> A friend who owns an IT Store got me another HDD case
> from a 2TB case, but the same, it wont boot the HDD.

Please explain. You do not normally boot from network
harddisks, although you can boot from the network for
thin client purposes. For that, you have to provide a
BOOTP / DHCP / TFTP / similar server and configure a
virtual boot disk. Not sure if NAS tend to support it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment

Apart from that, network disks are meant for accessing
them as network drives, not as boot drives, I think.

If you just want to access files, that should be fine,
but if some files are not accessible, it could be easier
to connect the disk more directly, via USB or SATA, not
as external network drive somewhere further away.

Note that 3 TB is more than the 2 TB limit of MBR style
partitioning at 512 byte sector size. Your disk will
probably use 4096 byte sectors and/or UEFI GBP partition
style, which only newer operating system versions support.

But as said - if this is a network disk, partitioning is
probably not the main problem when it comes to booting.

Regards, Eric



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[Freedos-user] A Linux question or puzzle to me...

2020-11-17 Thread Joao Silva
Hello to all.

I know this isn't a question regarding DOS/FreeDOS, but i'm hoping you can
steer me in the right direction.

The problem is: I have a Lacie external HDD with RJ45 with a 3TB HDD and I
can't boot the HDD.

* Windows can't access the partitions because is Linux (don't know/can't
identify the OS version)
* Used a software (can't remember the name) that saw the partition with the
files i want to copy, but took long, long, long time
* Tried in Ubuntu and only mounted 2 partitions of 8 or 10

>From some searches I did, it seems that the HDD is in some kind of RAID.

A friend who owns an IT Store got me another HDD case from a 2TB case, but
the same, it wont boot the HDD.


Any ideas, because i have none... i have the HDD for 1 one now and no
solution and no magic solution


Thank you
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