Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

2023-06-13 Thread Ralf Quint

On 6/13/2023 11:08 AM, Jose Senna wrote:

  Vacek Nules said:


I'd like to ask the community's opinion and possible
endorsements to get the UTC to accept the [Forint] symbol

   Is the Forint still in use in Hungary ?
Yes, it is still the official currency of Hungary. They apparently 
didn't switch to the Euro like most everyone else...

   Does Unicode still have vacant space in
  its character table?


As I mentioned in my previous reply, this isn't really anything that is 
of concern for (Free)DOS, as DOS is not using Unicode. And as the OP 
mentioned, for (Free)DOS this would have to be added into one of the 
code pages, if there doesn't already a standard exist (I never had to 
deal with Hungarian localization, so I am not certain what all would be 
required here)



Ralf



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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

2023-06-13 Thread Jose Senna
 Vacek Nules said:

> I'd like to ask the community's opinion and possible
> endorsements to get the UTC to accept the [Forint] symbol

  Is the Forint still in use in Hungary ?
  Does Unicode still have vacant space in
 its character table?


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

2023-06-13 Thread Ralf Quint

On 6/13/2023 1:42 AM, EdzUp wrote:

Hi,
   To be fair this seems like a very good idea mainly because any 
barriers to FreeDOS use and acceptance should be removed and this 
seems like a reasonably easy thing to do as it already is there.


-Ed


Much less of a good idea (not referring to the issue at large) as 
(Free)DOS doesn't use Unicode in any form, shape or color, unless a 
specific, graphics enabled application is handling this by itself...



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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

2023-06-13 Thread EdzUp
Hi,
   To be fair this seems like a very good idea mainly because any barriers
to FreeDOS use and acceptance should be removed and this seems like a
reasonably easy thing to do as it already is there.

-Ed

On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, 22:58 Vacek Nules,  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm Vacek Nules, a software developer from Hungary. I’ve also posted this
> message to the *devel* mailing list, but after accidentally sending it to
> the list owner they’ve referred me to the *user* list, hence I repost it
> here.
> I’m the author of Unicode proposal L2/23-060, which concerns the addition
> of a "Ft" character representing the Hungarian forint to Unicode, in a
> similar vein to CP437's peseta sign.
> Although the initial opinion was supporting, acceptance of this proposal
> has been stalled by some dissenting members of the Unicode Technical
> Committee despite this character having been supported on many different
> (mostly historic and Hungarian) computer systems, including FreeDOS, which
> has a Ft sign at 0x9F in code page 57781 (Hungarian), which is currently
> unmappable to Unicode because of this character missing.
> I'd like to ask the community's opinion and possible endorsements to get
> the UTC to accept the symbol, which is also needed for porting other DOS
> software from Hungary (some still in productive non-hobby use, e.g.
> point-of-sale systems).
>
> Thanks,
> Vacek
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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

2023-06-12 Thread Vacek Nules
Hi everyone,

I'm Vacek Nules, a software developer from Hungary. I’ve also posted this
message to the *devel* mailing list, but after accidentally sending it to
the list owner they’ve referred me to the *user* list, hence I repost it
here.
I’m the author of Unicode proposal L2/23-060, which concerns the addition
of a "Ft" character representing the Hungarian forint to Unicode, in a
similar vein to CP437's peseta sign.
Although the initial opinion was supporting, acceptance of this proposal
has been stalled by some dissenting members of the Unicode Technical
Committee despite this character having been supported on many different
(mostly historic and Hungarian) computer systems, including FreeDOS, which
has a Ft sign at 0x9F in code page 57781 (Hungarian), which is currently
unmappable to Unicode because of this character missing.
I'd like to ask the community's opinion and possible endorsements to get
the UTC to accept the symbol, which is also needed for porting other DOS
software from Hungary (some still in productive non-hobby use, e.g.
point-of-sale systems).

Thanks,
Vacek
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