Re: [Freedos-user] Loading network drivers for MS Client

2008-01-09 Thread Xavier COUDIN
Thanks for your fast answer Ulrich,

I took a look at the article written in German ; German used to be my 
first foreign language I learned at school, but since I dont practive 
anymore , it should take me a few hours to see if it is usefull to me.

I also downloaded yesterday the tool from netbootdisk. Very 
interesting and powerful. I feel that one of the aswer to my problem is 
the devload.com which is a part of the FreeDos distribution. It can 
load .sys drivers from comand-line after the config.sys step. This tool 
seems to be quite magic : so many netcard drivers can stand on 1 single 
floppy-disk ! unfortunately the compression-tool is not GPL nor 
open-source nor available under Linux.

Thanks for all !
Have a nice year 2008 !


Ulrich Hansen a écrit :
 Hi all,
 Xavier asks about network configuration with MS Client on 
 http://lazybrowndog.net/freedos

 As it is a public question, I would like to forward this here. Perhaps 
 some of you have additional ideas or corrections? Thanks! :-)

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[Freedos-user] Loading network drivers for MS Client

2008-01-08 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Hi all,
Xavier asks about network configuration with MS Client on 
http://lazybrowndog.net/freedos

As it is a public question, I would like to forward this here. Perhaps 
some of you have additional ideas or corrections? Thanks! :-)

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8.01.2008 - 10:17:39

Hi Ulrich, Thanks for this nice and big doc. Until now I have been 
using MS-DOS network client built from NT4 nressources. As I manage 
almost 200 computers with different netcards I must use a 2-steps 
procedure : disk1 = start MS-DOS (+ several utilities like ramdisk and 
freedos-fdisk) and after disk2=start network client dedicated to the 
lancard (so I had to build several different disk2, one for each 
lancard-type, it was a very heavy procedure, generating several .ini 
files that are almost un-understandable). In your doc you put 
lancard-driver in the (fd)config.sys, that means while starting dos. 
Do you have any idea about loading those drivers later like in my 
procedure ? also my target is to create a full freedos procedure. 
thanks in advance, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hi Xavier,

I first would like to mention: I am not a DOS network guru, 
especially not with MS Client. I am just a technical writer / 
journalist trying to be as accurate as I can. So here are just a few 
thoughts:

1. Maybe you want to take a look at a solution Volker Rüddigkeit 
describes at:

http://medien.bildung.hessen.de/support/techhilf/msclient

It is in german language - try with bablefish. He seems to do the same 
task with one disk. He has different disks for different network cards 
for download.

2. If you start MS Client the way described in the documentation 
(Protman and driver in (fd)config.sys) you have to determine the 
network driver at boot. I think in your situation it would be better 
to only load the Installable File System Helper driver IFSHLP.SYS in 
(fd)config.sys.

The network card is then only determined in PROTOCOL.INI (Line 
DriverName in the section of the netcard) and in SYSTEM.INI. These 
files are read when the binding / net.exe is started.

The binding of driver and protocol (by starting NETBIND.COM or 
NET.EXE) is done in a batchfile. Normally this is AUTOEXEC.BAT but it 
also can be some other *.BAT.

So just an idea:

Maybe you take a look at a free tool called INIFILE.COM which allows 
you to manipulate ini files from a batch file. It can be downloaded here:

http://home.mnet-online.de/horst.muc/wbat32.htm#inifile

This means you can paste the appropriate driver into the correct place 
in SYSTEM.INI and PROTOCOL.INI before you bind it. For example:

INIFILE.COM C:\NET\PROTOCOL.INI [NETCARD] DriverName=EL3C574$

INIFILE.COM C:\NET\SYSTEM.INI [network drivers] netcard=EL3C574.DOS

C:\NET\NET START

The advantage of doing this in a batchfile would be to be able to use 
IF conditions, to present choices etc. If it would be possible to 
detect a netcard by some procedure you even might be able to load the 
correct driver automatically.

3. Ask the people who are doing bootdisks, for instance at:

http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/

http://drivesnapshot.de/en/index.htm

http://www.netbootdisk.com/

Good luck!

Ulrich Hansen

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