Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-18 Thread Tom Ehlert
> So, even though I can't access the hard drive in Freecdos, you can access the harddrive from FreeDOS > the firmware update should work? I don't have the faintest idea if the firmware update will work, but YES > On Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:57 PM, tomehlert wrote: >> As I mentioned earlier,

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-18 Thread Bill Haught
So, even though I can't access the hard drive in Freecdos, the firmware update should work? On Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:57 PM, tomehlert wrote: > As I mentioned earlier, Freedos requires a ATA legacy mode in BIOS, which I > don't have. wrong. > Found this in the archives > http://sourcefo

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Bill Haught wrote: > dmccunney: >> Note that says "installation disk". That means you can potentially >> start an install of Vista/7 from a USB drive. It does not mean you >> can create a portable Windows installation that will *run* from a >> thumbdrive. > > Me:

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
dmccunney: Note that says "installation disk".  That means you can potentially start an install of Vista/7 from a USB drive.  It does not mean you can create a portable Windows installation that will *run* from a thumbdrive. Me: If I can copy files to the flash drive and get to a "DOS prompt" and

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
dmccunney: Note that says "installation disk".  That means you can potentially start an install of Vista/7 from a USB drive.  It does not mean you can create a portable Windows installation that will *run* from a thumbdrive. Me: If I can copy files to the flash drive and get to a "DOS prompt" and

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Bill Haught wrote: >>>The readme says "bootable USB key" I assume they mean a DOS one. >>> Especially due to licensing issues making one that >>>boots Windows is a *REAL* project.l > > Or maybe not. Apparently with Vista and 7 it is easy to copy the > Installati

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:10 PM, Bill Haught wrote: >>The readme says "bootable USB key"  I assume they mean a DOS one. Especially >>due to licensing issues making one that >>boots Windows is a *REAL* project.l Or maybe not.  Apparently with Vista and 7 it is easy to copy the Instal

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Tom Ehlert
> The readme says "bootable USB key" I assume they mean a DOS one. > Especially due to licensing issues making one that boots Windows is a *REAL* > project.l search for RUFUS (RUFUS_v1.2) install to USB key add your WD files boot from USB key Tom > On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:01 PM,

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
The readme says "bootable USB key"  I assume they mean a DOS one. Especially due to licensing issues making one that boots Windows is a *REAL* project.l On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:01 PM, Bill Haught wrote: Mine is a Western Digital WD10EALX.  The file R313263.exe extracts to C:\dell\dr

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
Mine is a Western Digital WD10EALX.  The file R313263.exe extracts to C:\dell\drivers\R313263.  The readme.txt in the directory is as follows: THE INFORMATION, FIRMWARE AND TOOLS, AND ALL ASSOCIATED UPDATES AND MODIFICATIONS (THE “INFORMATION”), CONTAINED HEREIN IS PROVIDED ON AN “AS-IS” BASIS

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Louis Santillan
I would assume the oem hdd flash software would detect if you're attempting to flash a non-visible/non-existent drive. The flashing instructions on the Dell site ( http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=NJKYF&fileId=3176063597&osCode=W764&productCode=studio-xps-7

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Zbigniew
2014-07-17 16:02 GMT+02:00, Bill Haught : > The main reason I want Freedos is to flash my hard drive with the latest > firmware. I assume that the hard drive cannot be found for this purpose > without legacy ATA support. Maybe the best idea could be... to call techsupport of the manufacturer (or

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
Found this in the archives http://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/message/26625851/  "UIDE/UIDEJR can run AHCI drives on mainboards that have a "legacy" or "native IDE"  setting for AHCI controllers, i.e. the drives can be addressed using standard SATA/IDE I-O logic." In simple terms, I'm sc

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
The main reason I want Freedos is to flash my hard drive with the latest firmware.  I assume that the hard drive cannot be found for this purpose without legacy ATA support.  I suppose unnecessary drivers (or worse necessary ones?) can brick a hard drive too?  I wonder if it would be better if

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-16 Thread Christopher Evans
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Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-16 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-07-16 18:55 (GMT-0700) Louis Santillan composed: > Also you try booting with uide as Rugxulo mention (config.sys) or > try booting from cd. I wouldn't try that myself except as an absolutely last resort. Most flash utilities that come with any documentation warn that DOS needs to be load

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support (was: Rufus error messages)

2014-07-16 Thread Louis Santillan
Also you try booting with uide as Rugxulo mention (config.sys) or try booting from cd. On Wednesday, July 16, 2014, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2014-07-16 17:18 (GMT-0700) Bill Haught composed: > > > Only SATA Modes available are AHCI and RAID > > > Looks like I'm S.O.L. > > BIOS has no mention of I

Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support (was: Rufus error messages)

2014-07-16 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-07-16 17:18 (GMT-0700) Bill Haught composed: > Only SATA Modes available are AHCI and RAID > Looks like I'm S.O.L. BIOS has no mention of IDE or Legacy anywhere at all? If not, I would think AHCI would include some degree of legacy support. -- "The wise are known for their understandin