Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread geneb
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Ralf Quint wrote: I couldn't care less about .NET, it's pretty much a non-portable, dead-end technology, just years behind the curve. A lot of former Java fanatics (for which .NET became a substitute once M$ could not get to terms with Sun) have jumped that ship already

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread geneb
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018, Ralf Quint wrote: On 9/30/2018 10:18 AM, geneb wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Ralf Quint wrote: I couldn't care less about .NET, it's pretty much a non-portable, dead-end technology, just years behind the curve. A lot of former Java fanatics (for which .NET became a

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Ralf Quint
On 9/30/2018 10:18 AM, geneb wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Ralf Quint wrote: I couldn't care less about .NET, it's pretty much a non-portable, dead-end technology, just years behind the curve. A lot of former Java fanatics (for which .NET became a substitute once M$ could not get to terms with

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Random Liegh via Freedos-user
On 9/30/2018 8:51 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:14 AM Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: On 9/29/2018 3:09 PM, Rugxulo wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 3:47 AM Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: I'm not sure this has any value for FreeDOS beyond experimenting (can

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 7:51 PM Rugxulo wrote: > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:17 AM dmccunney wrote: > > > > It's no loss to MS to make DOS 1.5 and 2.0 available under a permissive > > license. > > "No loss" might be inaccurate. While it may be trivial compared to > "newer technology", it's

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread stecdose
In fact there are some companies still making money with DOS. I worked for a company until mid 2016 building embedded 386EX systems, which they still do up to now. They license Datalight ROMDOS as well as a BIOS from another vendor, but for that I do not remember the name... Once I was

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Ralf Quint
On 9/30/2018 1:34 PM, geneb wrote: Visual Studio for Macintosh will handle the issue for MacOS, Xamarin will handle the issue for Linux and I don't know of anyone that uses a GUI on FreeBSD. :) Yes, I know ARM isn't an OS.  That's not the point.  The .NET Micro Framework specifically targets

[Freedos-user] Sharing announcements about FreeDOS programs

2018-09-30 Thread Jim Hall
Just wanted to share a quick update that when I see announcements about programs for FreeDOS, I might post them as news on the website, or tweet about them from the FreeDOS Twitter account: http://twitter.com/FreeDOS_Project I may sometimes share them on the FreeDOS Facebook group:

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Jim Hall
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 7:51 PM Rugxulo wrote: >> FreeDOS seems to mostly focus on "four freedoms" (free/libre), aka GPL >> or OSI. As long as we're as "free" as possible, I think we're okay. It >> gives us the most advantages, and it helps the most people. But I >> don't think splitting hairs

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:14 AM Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: > On 9/29/2018 3:09 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 3:47 AM Random Liegh via Freedos-user > > wrote: > >> I'm not sure this has any value for FreeDOS beyond experimenting (can > >> this be built by the VAL

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 6:02 PM dmccunney wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 7:51 PM Rugxulo wrote: > > > > "No loss" might be inaccurate. While it may be trivial compared to > > "newer technology", it's impossible to say that their (MSDN?) revenue > > from such legacy software is so low as

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Jim Hall
> > > > > (Speaking personally, I'd love to see *FreeDOS* re-licensed under > something other than the GPL.) > > I don't honestly know if that's even legally possible now that Pat has > died. (Gotta love legalese, ugh. No, I'm not a lawyer.) > > Correct. Re-licensing the code base would require

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Jim Hall
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:13 AM, Random Liegh wrote: > > > * On 9/29/2018 3:09 PM, Rugxulo wrote: * >> >> >> * Hi,* >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 3:47 AM Random Liegh wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure this has any value for FreeDOS beyond experimenting (can >>> this be built by the VAL linker? seems