Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS diskette cache

2015-06-11 Thread Eric Auer

Hi guys,

>> Typical error occurs following format:
>> Drive_IO(WRITE 9, count 1 ) [FAT12/16] [drive A:]
>>
>>  Critical error during DOS disk access
>>  DOS driver error (hex) : 08
>>Description: sector not found
>>  Progam terminated.
>>  [Error 136]
>> C:\>

If the floppy was not formatted before and you do not
want to rely on automatic detection of that, you may
want to explicitly request low level formatting with

FORMAT A: /U

See also FORMAT /z:longhelp for various other hints.

Cheers, Eric





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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS diskette cache

2015-06-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

(Sorry for slow reply here. I just kept forgetting.)

I just meant that for testing FORMAT.EXE , you can use any kernel. So
if it's possibly a FreeDOS regression, you'd have to test older
versions (temporarily), e.g. old stable 2036, to see if that worked
better. I didn't mean use it full-time or give up on your (newer)
patched kernel.

Anyways, I finally recompiled KE2036 (with Eric's tiny FCB patch) via
old OpenWatcom 1.3, so I'll email you that offline ... if you direly
want to test it (additionally).


On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Don Flowers  wrote:
>
> With my need for the FCB filename parsing, int 21h function 29h patch  I
> need to use either the patched 2041 or the unofficial 2042 kernel. I do have
> fewer errors with the 2042,
>
> Typical error occurs following format:
> Drive_IO(WRITE 9, count 1 ) [FAT12/16] [drive A:]
>
>  Critical error during DOS disk access
>  DOS driver error (hex) : 08
>Description: sector not found
>  Progam terminated.
>  [Error 136]
> C:\>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Rugxulo  wrote:
>>
>> On May 25, 2015 7:09 AM, "Don Flowers"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Could this be the cause of so many diskette formatting
>> > failures in FreeDOS? I have to resort to either booting in
>> > Compaq DOS 3.31 or using 3rd party formatting tools such
>> > as FMT or Nformat.
>>
>> Try an older stable kernel (2038 or even 2036), and see if the problem
>> goes away.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS diskette cache

2015-05-25 Thread Don Flowers
Mateusz,
I went through my archives and found Central Point PC-Tools version 4. It
has a floppy cache called PC-Cache which "should" work.

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Don Flowers  wrote:

> With my need for the FCB filename parsing, int 21h function 29h patch  I
> need to use either the patched 2041 or the unofficial 2042 kernel. I do
> have fewer errors with the 2042,
> Typical error occurs following format:
> Drive_IO(WRITE 9, count 1 ) [FAT12/16] [drive A:]
>
>  Critical error during DOS disk access
>  DOS driver error (hex) : 08
>Description: sector not found
>  Progam terminated.
>  [Error 136]
> C:\>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Rugxulo  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On May 25, 2015 7:09 AM, "Don Flowers"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Could this be the cause of so many diskette formatting
>> > failures in FreeDOS? I have to resort to either booting in
>> > Compaq DOS 3.31 or using 3rd party formatting tools such
>> > as FMT or Nformat.
>>
>> Try an older stable kernel (2038 or even 2036), and see if the problem
>> goes away.
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS diskette cache

2015-05-25 Thread Don Flowers
With my need for the FCB filename parsing, int 21h function 29h patch  I
need to use either the patched 2041 or the unofficial 2042 kernel. I do
have fewer errors with the 2042,
Typical error occurs following format:
Drive_IO(WRITE 9, count 1 ) [FAT12/16] [drive A:]

 Critical error during DOS disk access
 DOS driver error (hex) : 08
   Description: sector not found
 Progam terminated.
 [Error 136]
C:\>

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Rugxulo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On May 25, 2015 7:09 AM, "Don Flowers"  wrote:
> >
> > Could this be the cause of so many diskette formatting
> > failures in FreeDOS? I have to resort to either booting in
> > Compaq DOS 3.31 or using 3rd party formatting tools such
> > as FMT or Nformat.
>
> Try an older stable kernel (2038 or even 2036), and see if the problem
> goes away.
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS diskette cache

2015-05-25 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On May 25, 2015 7:09 AM, "Don Flowers"  wrote:
>
> Could this be the cause of so many diskette formatting
> failures in FreeDOS? I have to resort to either booting in
> Compaq DOS 3.31 or using 3rd party formatting tools such
> as FMT or Nformat.

Try an older stable kernel (2038 or even 2036), and see if the problem goes
away.
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS diskette cache

2015-05-25 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On May 25, 2015 2:27 AM, "Mateusz Viste"  wrote:
>
> Question -- is there any way I could install a diskette cache on
> FreeDOS? If not supported by the kernel right away (as seems to be the
> case in MSDOS), maybe some additional (preferably free) tool could help?
> Unfortunately LBACACHE is 386-only, and UIDE requires XMS. What I'd need
> is a small cache of a few KB that sits in conventional memory...

Not sure of any. You may have to fake it with a RAM disk (e.g. TDSK) and
just copy over the most popular tools at bootup.

Otherwise, dunno. Check Garbo or Simtel mirrors.
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS diskette cache

2015-05-25 Thread Don Flowers
Could this be the cause of so many diskette formatting failures in FreeDOS?
I have to resort to either booting in Compaq DOS 3.31 or using 3rd party
formatting tools such as FMT or Nformat.

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 3:26 AM, Mateusz Viste  wrote:

> Hello group,
>
> I am playing a bit with a 8086 PC these days, and I noticed an ugly
> difference on it between FreeDOS and MSDOS 3.3:
>
> MSDOS 3.3 keeps the content of last read sectors of the diskette in a
> cache, while FreeDOS does not. This means that FreeDOS is accessing the
> FDD much more often than MSDOS, which makes it overally crawling (and
> frustrating). There is no special configuration on the MSDOS side, only
> a "BUFFERS=17" directive in config.sys. I did reproduce it on FreeDOS,
> but it hasn't improved FDD caching at all.
>
> Question -- is there any way I could install a diskette cache on
> FreeDOS? If not supported by the kernel right away (as seems to be the
> case in MSDOS), maybe some additional (preferably free) tool could help?
> Unfortunately LBACACHE is 386-only, and UIDE requires XMS. What I'd need
> is a small cache of a few KB that sits in conventional memory...
>
> Mateusz
>
>
>
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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS diskette cache

2015-05-25 Thread Mateusz Viste
Hello group,

I am playing a bit with a 8086 PC these days, and I noticed an ugly 
difference on it between FreeDOS and MSDOS 3.3:

MSDOS 3.3 keeps the content of last read sectors of the diskette in a 
cache, while FreeDOS does not. This means that FreeDOS is accessing the 
FDD much more often than MSDOS, which makes it overally crawling (and 
frustrating). There is no special configuration on the MSDOS side, only 
a "BUFFERS=17" directive in config.sys. I did reproduce it on FreeDOS, 
but it hasn't improved FDD caching at all.

Question -- is there any way I could install a diskette cache on 
FreeDOS? If not supported by the kernel right away (as seems to be the 
case in MSDOS), maybe some additional (preferably free) tool could help? 
Unfortunately LBACACHE is 386-only, and UIDE requires XMS. What I'd need 
is a small cache of a few KB that sits in conventional memory...

Mateusz


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