Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings

[usul]

Thanks!

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 5:02 PM Daniel Essin via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> https://archive.org/details/msdos_manual_622
>
> https://archive.org/details/microsoft-programmers-reference-manual-msdos-2.0
> https://archive.org/details/msdos_5_User_Guide_complete
> https://archive.org/details/msdos_5_User_Guide_complete
> 
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, at 2:22 PM, usul wrote:
>
> This is awesome, thank you.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rugxulo  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 11:57 AM usul  wrote:
> >
> > So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and
> my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with
> a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram.
> > I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I finished
> college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net.  I can read C / C++ but never
> really did anything with it.
>
> FreeBASIC might be for you, then. It does have a DJGPP build.
>
> * https://freebasic.net/
> * https://www.freebasic.net/wiki/DocToc
>
> > So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again
> >
> > So I plan to multiboot on the laptop
> > Linux
> > Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11
> > and FreeDos
> > Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any
> Recommendations?
>
> You already mentioned ZipSlack (Slackware 11.0), and that was 2006-ish
> using UMSDOS running atop FAT.
>
> * https://mirrors.slackware.com/mirrorlist/
> * https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware-11.0/zipslack/
>
> > I found on those old cds copies of
> > desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to)
> > and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition.
> > Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff.
>
> The Desqview/X SDK was DJGPP v1 (though I never used it), it's still on
> mirrors.
>
> * https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/getting.html
> * http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/deleted/v1tk/00_index.txt
>
> > Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my
> autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos
> and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that.
>
> I personally wouldn't bother with EMM386 (JEMM) just yet. Try sticking
> to XMS only (HIMEMX), for now.
>
> > The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. .  Where can I get all the
> info to relearn all of that?  Is there a website / documentation or an old
> dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos.  It sees all of
> the memory on the laptop 4gigs just
>
> * https://help.fdos.org/en/index.htm
>
> > I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but
> eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp.
>
> * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2/readme.1st
> * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2misc/csdpmi7b.zip
>
> There's also OpenWatcom:
>
> *
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.9/
>
> A lot of us also like HX / HDPMI32:
>
> * https://github.com/Baron-von-Riedesel/HX/releases/tag/v2.20
>
> > I'm not really good with mailing lists, too  much overload. LOL Do we
> have a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc.
> If not, I'll re-adapt.
>
> * http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board.php
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings

[Daniel Essin via Freedos-user]

https://archive.org/details/msdos_manual_622
https://archive.org/details/microsoft-programmers-reference-manual-msdos-2.0
https://archive.org/details/msdos_5_User_Guide_completehttps://archive.org/details/msdos_5_User_Guide_complete
 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, at 2:22 PM, usul wrote:
> This is awesome, thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rugxulo  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 11:57 AM usul  wrote:
>> >
>> > So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and 
>> > my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start 
>> > with a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram.
>> > I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I finished 
>> > college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net.  I can read C / C++ but never 
>> > really did anything with it.
>> 
>> FreeBASIC might be for you, then. It does have a DJGPP build.
>> 
>> * https://freebasic.net/
>> * https://www.freebasic.net/wiki/DocToc
>> 
>> > So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again
>> >
>> > So I plan to multiboot on the laptop
>> > Linux
>> > Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11
>> > and FreeDos
>> > Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any Recommendations?
>> 
>> You already mentioned ZipSlack (Slackware 11.0), and that was 2006-ish
>> using UMSDOS running atop FAT.
>> 
>> * https://mirrors.slackware.com/mirrorlist/
>> * https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware-11.0/zipslack/
>> 
>> > I found on those old cds copies of
>> > desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to)
>> > and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition.
>> > Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff.
>> 
>> The Desqview/X SDK was DJGPP v1 (though I never used it), it's still on 
>> mirrors.
>> 
>> * https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/getting.html
>> * http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/deleted/v1tk/00_index.txt
>> 
>> > Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my 
>> > autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos 
>> > and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that.
>> 
>> I personally wouldn't bother with EMM386 (JEMM) just yet. Try sticking
>> to XMS only (HIMEMX), for now.
>> 
>> > The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. .  Where can I get all the 
>> > info to relearn all of that?  Is there a website / documentation or an old 
>> > dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos.  It sees all 
>> > of the memory on the laptop 4gigs just
>> 
>> * https://help.fdos.org/en/index.htm
>> 
>> > I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but  
>> > eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp.
>> 
>> * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2/readme.1st
>> * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2misc/csdpmi7b.zip
>> 
>> There's also OpenWatcom:
>> 
>> * 
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.9/
>> 
>> A lot of us also like HX / HDPMI32:
>> 
>> * https://github.com/Baron-von-Riedesel/HX/releases/tag/v2.20
>> 
>> > I'm not really good with mailing lists, too  much overload. LOL Do we have 
>> > a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc.  If 
>> > not, I'll re-adapt.
>> 
>> * http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board.php
>> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings

[usul]

This is awesome, thank you.



On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rugxulo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 11:57 AM usul  wrote:
> >
> > So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and
> my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with
> a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram.
> > I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I finished
> college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net.  I can read C / C++ but never
> really did anything with it.
>
> FreeBASIC might be for you, then. It does have a DJGPP build.
>
> * https://freebasic.net/
> * https://www.freebasic.net/wiki/DocToc
>
> > So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again
> >
> > So I plan to multiboot on the laptop
> > Linux
> > Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11
> > and FreeDos
> > Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any
> Recommendations?
>
> You already mentioned ZipSlack (Slackware 11.0), and that was 2006-ish
> using UMSDOS running atop FAT.
>
> * https://mirrors.slackware.com/mirrorlist/
> * https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware-11.0/zipslack/
>
> > I found on those old cds copies of
> > desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to)
> > and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition.
> > Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff.
>
> The Desqview/X SDK was DJGPP v1 (though I never used it), it's still on
> mirrors.
>
> * https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/getting.html
> * http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/deleted/v1tk/00_index.txt
>
> > Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my
> autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos
> and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that.
>
> I personally wouldn't bother with EMM386 (JEMM) just yet. Try sticking
> to XMS only (HIMEMX), for now.
>
> > The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. .  Where can I get all the
> info to relearn all of that?  Is there a website / documentation or an old
> dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos.  It sees all of
> the memory on the laptop 4gigs just
>
> * https://help.fdos.org/en/index.htm
>
> > I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but
> eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp.
>
> * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2/readme.1st
> * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2misc/csdpmi7b.zip
>
> There's also OpenWatcom:
>
> *
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.9/
>
> A lot of us also like HX / HDPMI32:
>
> * https://github.com/Baron-von-Riedesel/HX/releases/tag/v2.20
>
> > I'm not really good with mailing lists, too  much overload. LOL Do we
> have a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc.
> If not, I'll re-adapt.
>
> * http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board.php
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Rugxulo  wrote:
>
> > So as soon as I get the items loaded this higher memory and 32 dos extender 
> > stuff remembered and djgpp or w/e up and running the better.
>
> I had an ancient GCC 2.95.3 archive (DJGPP 2.03p2), if you're curious.
> It was a .7z file that fit on a 1.44 MB floppy (good for unpacking to small 
> RAM disk).

* 
http://web.archive.org/web/20201013132718/https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/DJGPP203.7Z?attredirects=0

* 
http://web.archive.org/web/20201013132718/https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/DJGPP203.TXT?attredirects=0


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Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings

[Rugxulo]

Hi again,

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:03 PM usul  wrote:
>
> Apparently I purged XP disks long ago.  :( Laptop has Windows 10 is on it.  
> And it is awful LOL.   Even though most of the minimalist linux live I have 
> tested also dogged a bit.

UMSDOS wasn't maintained after the 2.4 kernel series. If it's too
slow, you'll have to dual boot.

> I might install suse with xcfe on it.  That seemed to run the best.  Though I 
> have never done any linux development.  and the last time I really used it, 
> ZipSlack and Mandrake were still a thing. :)

I also used to be partial to Minix 2.0.4, e.g. DOSMinix, but IIRC it
only properly ran atop FAT16. It was a slim POSIX environment with a C
compiler.

* http://download.minix3.org/previous-versions/Intel-2.0.4/

> I did find a copy of "Undocumented Dos: A Programmer's Guide"  
> https://biblio.co.nz/9780201632873 and a bunch of my old C\C++ books.

C++ has changed A LOT since the old days. I don't really grok it, but
C++20 is the latest (modules!), and GCC (now written in C++) defaults
to C++17 by default. So most (?) stuff should work with DJGPP's build
of G++ 12.2.

* https://isocpp.org/tour

> So as soon as I get the items loaded this higher memory and 32 dos extender 
> stuff remembered and djgpp or w/e up and running the better.

I had an ancient GCC 2.95.3 archive (DJGPP 2.03p2), if you're curious.
(Apparently my Google Site was deleted, sigh.) It was a .7z file that
fit on a 1.44 MB floppy (good for unpacking to small RAM disk). I can
add it to my Google Drive later for you, if you want.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 11:57 AM usul  wrote:
>
> So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and my 
> Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with a 
> 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram.
> I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I finished college. 
> VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net.  I can read C / C++ but never really did 
> anything with it.

FreeBASIC might be for you, then. It does have a DJGPP build.

* https://freebasic.net/
* https://www.freebasic.net/wiki/DocToc

> So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again
>
> So I plan to multiboot on the laptop
> Linux
> Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11
> and FreeDos
> Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any Recommendations?

You already mentioned ZipSlack (Slackware 11.0), and that was 2006-ish
using UMSDOS running atop FAT.

* https://mirrors.slackware.com/mirrorlist/
* https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware-11.0/zipslack/

> I found on those old cds copies of
> desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to)
> and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition.
> Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff.

The Desqview/X SDK was DJGPP v1 (though I never used it), it's still on mirrors.

* https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/getting.html
* http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/deleted/v1tk/00_index.txt

> Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my 
> autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos and 
> stuff loaded to high memory or something like that.

I personally wouldn't bother with EMM386 (JEMM) just yet. Try sticking
to XMS only (HIMEMX), for now.

> The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. .  Where can I get all the info 
> to relearn all of that?  Is there a website / documentation or an old dos 
> book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos.  It sees all of the 
> memory on the laptop 4gigs just

* https://help.fdos.org/en/index.htm

> I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but  eventually 
> once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp.

* https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2/readme.1st
* https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2misc/csdpmi7b.zip

There's also OpenWatcom:

* 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.9/

A lot of us also like HX / HDPMI32:

* https://github.com/Baron-von-Riedesel/HX/releases/tag/v2.20

> I'm not really good with mailing lists, too  much overload. LOL Do we have a 
> Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc.  If not, 
> I'll re-adapt.

* http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board.php


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Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings

[usul]

Apparently I purged XP disks long ago.  :( Laptop has Windows 10 is on it.
And it is awful LOL.   Even though most of the minimalist linux live I have
tested also dogged a bit.
I might install suse with xcfe on it.  That seemed to run the best.  Though
I have never done any linux development.  and the last time I really used
it, ZipSlack and Mandrake were still a thing. :)

But I really wanted to putz the win 3.11 and DESQview/X 2.1 compatibility.
This guy mentioned...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfpizh02C2U_channel=MartinISDN
So I would really like to try them all native. And is coding on a VM or
DosBox etc really coding  it  native? I dunno. :)  Half the fun I guess is
re-learning all this stuff.

I also saw a video where someone loaded 3.11 on Freedos.

:)   I dunno.  Been programming for 30 years, hate my job and have 13 years
to go.   Have to find something to respark my interest in programming in
spite of where I work.  LOL

I bought a supposed legal copy of XP from ebay.  Might do the same with MS
DOs 6.22 and Windows 3.1 but that would mean I have to get a usb floppy
drive as I no longer have one. :P

I did find a copy of "Undocumented Dos: A Programmer's Guide"
https://biblio.co.nz/9780201632873 and a bunch of my old C\C++ books.

So as soon as I get the items loaded this higher memory and 32 dos extender
stuff remembered and djgpp or w/e up and running the better.


Adam



On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 12:39 PM John Vella  wrote:

> I would be tempted to install windows xp, which I believe this laptop
> shipped with, then install virtual pc, (the version before Microsoft bought
> it) and run the various dos/Windows 3.1 machines in a virtual environment.
>
> Or install linux and find a virtual pc solution for that.
>
> Dos and win 3.1 don't need a lot of resources and should run fine
> virtually.
>
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023, 17:57 usul,  wrote:
>
>> So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and
>> my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with
>> a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram.
>> I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I
>> finished college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net.  I can read C / C++ but
>> never really did anything with it.
>> So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again
>>
>> So I plan to multiboot on the laptop
>> Linux
>> Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11
>> and FreeDos
>> Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any
>> Recommendations?
>>
>> I found on those old cds copies of
>> desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to)
>> and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition.
>> Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff.
>>
>> Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my
>> autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos
>> and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that.
>> This is my fconfig.sys that I found in one of the FREEDOS folders..,.
>>
>> **
>> SET DOSDIR=C:\FREEDOS
>> !BUFFERS=20
>> !FILES=40
>> !MENUCOLOR=7,0
>>
>> MENUDEFAULT=4,5
>> MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
>> MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX (more compatible)
>> MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386 (Expanded Memory)
>> MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)
>> MENU 5 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)
>>
>> 123?DOS=HIGH
>> 123?DOS=UMB
>> 123?DOSDATA=UMB
>>
>> 1?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
>> 2?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
>> 34?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
>> 3?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
>>
>> 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024
>> /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT
>> 345?SHELL=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024
>> /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. .  Where can I get all the
>> info to relearn all of that?  Is there a website / documentation or an old
>> dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos.  It sees all of
>> the memory on the laptop 4gigs just
>>
>> I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but
>> eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp.
>> So I think I need to get this all working.  Mouse , CDROM all worked out of
>> the box that was amazing.
>>
>> I'm not really good with mailing lists, too  much overload. LOL Do we
>> have a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc.
>> If not, I'll re-adapt.
>>
>> Any direction  / sites / books :)
>>
>> Thanks a bunch and this is awesome btw.
>>
>> Adam
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Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings

[John Vella]

I would be tempted to install windows xp, which I believe this laptop
shipped with, then install virtual pc, (the version before Microsoft bought
it) and run the various dos/Windows 3.1 machines in a virtual environment.

Or install linux and find a virtual pc solution for that.

Dos and win 3.1 don't need a lot of resources and should run fine
virtually.

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023, 17:57 usul,  wrote:

> So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and
> my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with
> a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram.
> I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I
> finished college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net.  I can read C / C++ but
> never really did anything with it.
> So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again
>
> So I plan to multiboot on the laptop
> Linux
> Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11
> and FreeDos
> Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any Recommendations?
>
> I found on those old cds copies of
> desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to)
> and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition.
> Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff.
>
> Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my
> autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos
> and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that.
> This is my fconfig.sys that I found in one of the FREEDOS folders..,.
>
> **
> SET DOSDIR=C:\FREEDOS
> !BUFFERS=20
> !FILES=40
> !MENUCOLOR=7,0
>
> MENUDEFAULT=4,5
> MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
> MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX (more compatible)
> MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386 (Expanded Memory)
> MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)
> MENU 5 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)
>
> 123?DOS=HIGH
> 123?DOS=UMB
> 123?DOSDATA=UMB
>
> 1?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
> 2?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
> 34?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
> 3?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
>
> 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024
> /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT
> 345?SHELL=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024
> /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT
>
>
> **
>
> The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. .  Where can I get all the
> info to relearn all of that?  Is there a website / documentation or an old
> dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos.  It sees all of
> the memory on the laptop 4gigs just
>
> I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but
> eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp.
> So I think I need to get this all working.  Mouse , CDROM all worked out of
> the box that was amazing.
>
> I'm not really good with mailing lists, too  much overload. LOL Do we have
> a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc.  If
> not, I'll re-adapt.
>
> Any direction  / sites / books :)
>
> Thanks a bunch and this is awesome btw.
>
> Adam
>
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[Freedos-user] Greetings

[usul]

So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and my
Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with a
486 DX 8 mgs of Ram.
I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I
finished college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net.  I can read C / C++ but
never really did anything with it.
So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again

So I plan to multiboot on the laptop
Linux
Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11
and FreeDos
Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any Recommendations?

I found on those old cds copies of
desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to)
and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition.
Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff.

Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my
autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos
and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that.
This is my fconfig.sys that I found in one of the FREEDOS folders..,.
**
SET DOSDIR=C:\FREEDOS
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
!MENUCOLOR=7,0

MENUDEFAULT=4,5
MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX (more compatible)
MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386 (Expanded Memory)
MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)
MENU 5 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)

123?DOS=HIGH
123?DOS=UMB
123?DOSDATA=UMB

1?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
2?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
34?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
3?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG

12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024
/P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT
345?SHELL=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT

**

The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. .  Where can I get all the
info to relearn all of that?  Is there a website / documentation or an old
dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos.  It sees all of
the memory on the laptop 4gigs just

I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but  eventually
once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp.  So I think
I need to get this all working.  Mouse , CDROM all worked out of the box
that was amazing.

I'm not really good with mailing lists, too  much overload. LOL Do we have
a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc.  If
not, I'll re-adapt.

Any direction  / sites / books :)

Thanks a bunch and this is awesome btw.

Adam
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[Freedos-user] greetings

[Braden Mailloux]

Hello, Everyone;

My name is Braden and I'm a new user to FreeDOS. I've successfully
installed FreeDOS to my old Dell laptop (the cd-rom drive held out!). I'm
pretty new to computers, even though they've been in my life for some time
now. I'm an avid windows xp user, but have never really felt all that
satisfied using a graphical system. 

Anyway, I'm going to be returning to school in the spring and will be
majoring in Comp Sci, maybe electrical engineering. At the moment, I'm new
to programming and am looking for a great way to get started and FreeDOS
seems to be a good place to start. I plan to learn assembly and C to start.
Right now, my current task is to try and use my modem to dial up to the
internet. It could take a while...

So, it's nice to meet everyone. I hope we have some fun. 

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Re: [Freedos-user] greetings

[Michael Reichenbach]

Welcome. :)

Regards,
-mr

Braden Mailloux schrieb:
 Hello, Everyone;
 
 My name is Braden and I'm a new user to FreeDOS. I've successfully
 installed FreeDOS to my old Dell laptop (the cd-rom drive held out!). I'm
 pretty new to computers, even though they've been in my life for some time
 now. I'm an avid windows xp user, but have never really felt all that
 satisfied using a graphical system. 
 
 Anyway, I'm going to be returning to school in the spring and will be
 majoring in Comp Sci, maybe electrical engineering. At the moment, I'm new
 to programming and am looking for a great way to get started and FreeDOS
 seems to be a good place to start. I plan to learn assembly and C to start.
 Right now, my current task is to try and use my modem to dial up to the
 internet. It could take a while...
 
 So, it's nice to meet everyone. I hope we have some fun. 
 
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