[Freedos-user] re: Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed

2006-02-03 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Johnson, I did not intend to insult people, I just
wanted to say most people will not want to delete Windows
if it came preinstalled with their PC / Most people do
not download DOS to 'clean' their PC and remove Windows.

I noticed that DOS / Win3 boots quite slow from USB (slow
BIOS drivers). Disk writes are slow, too, and even un-
reliable on some BIOSes. My comment is also related to
Knoppix versus Linux-on-harddisk... Of course Knoppix is
far more complex than DOS, but loading 10s of MBs of Linux
into RAM from CDROM takes quite a bit of time and resources.

Eric

 And as Mark said, booting from and writing to non-harddisk
 media is slow and in the case of CD even impossible...
 Yeah well we could support CD-RW with UDF. Maybe ;-).
 Not really, quite fast.
 What can you expected from USB?
 You are an OS racist. Many people are very happy with their
 Windows-Linux dual boot system...
 Oh, man! Nothing to do with race, anything wrong to add FreeDOS to
 WinXP? I want this kind of dualboot!


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Re: [Freedos-user] re: Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed

2006-02-03 Thread Gerry Hickman

Eric Auer wrote:


I noticed that DOS / Win3 boots quite slow from USB (slow
BIOS drivers).


Yes, there seems to be disparity among PC and data-stick vendors. I'd be 
interested to know what make/model/BIOS/stick you are seeing this slow 
behavior on?


I've been testing Dell client/server GX270/GX280 and PE2850 (Intel 
chipset) using their supplied USB 2.0 128Mb data-stick and it seems very 
fast...


--
Gerry Hickman (London UK)


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[Freedos-user] re: Dual Boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS - Alpha testers needed

2006-02-02 Thread Eric Auer

Hi...

 Nearly anything you'd ever want to do in FreeDOS can be done without 
 going anywhere near a hard drive or it's o/s. It's very easy to create a 
 bootable FreeDOS CD or bootable FreeDOS data stick...

Making USB sticks boot FreeDOS is not actually trivial.
And as Mark said, booting from and writing to non-harddisk
media is slow and in the case of CD even impossible...
Yeah well we could support CD-RW with UDF. Maybe ;-).

  Anyone who is interested in FreeDOS would insist on re-building any 
 PC that ever landed on their desk. The first thing I do to an XP machine 
 is run FreeDOS FDISK with the /clearall option...

You are an OS racist. Many people are very happy with their
Windows-Linux dual boot system, and the same will be the case
for Windows-DOS or Windows-DOS-Linux systems. Linux distros let
you resize the Windows partition to make space for Linux, which
is MUCH easier than deleting and reinstalling Windows. Plus it
is a bit never change a running system - do not reinstall it,
better resize it :-).

 Even if you do want XP, 
 you can simply create a bootable partition formatted as FAT to install 
 FreeDOS and then put Windoze on the next partition and so on. Anyone who 
 runs a PC with only one partition is a foo...

As said :-). So resizers are nice. As Windows usually comes preinstalled
so the users are not given the option to create multiple partitions in
the first place. MS claims that drive letters confuse users :-P. MS also
promoted that stupid revert to shipping state recovery mode, which
can be triggered by any idiot but which (who cares? at least MS does not)
also deletes your own files and removes all security updates and so on.
But hey, letting users FIX their Windows would mean work for the helpdesk.

 Another option for anyone serious about FreeDOS is simply add a second 
 hard drive; it's cheap, and it's a lot easier and much safer in terms of 
 disaster recovery and you can also use it for swap file etc.

I disagree. If you hit your Windows drive with a hammer, you can
unplug it and then still have DOS? At least for the software view,
a separate partition is just as good as a separate harddisk...
And absolutely cheaper than a new disk :-).

Eric



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