Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
EUREKA! FRACTINT RUNS IN FREEDOS! I have finally found the way to run it, that is, I found it after Ralf & Dale & others told me... "CHDIR" is the key This only applies to the special "FreeDOS+Fractint.ova" which is downloadable from the Fractint.org site (Fractint 20 is built-into FreeDOS 1.0). Install into Oracle VirtualBox, a piece of cake (Devil's food). After installed as a Guest, Start it. Type CHDIR FRACTINT, enter, then type FRACTINT.EXE, enter, and there you are, in Fractint. Thank you Ralf, thank you Dale, thank you all who helped! ** - Original Message - From: "Dale E Sterner" To: Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Freedos-user] How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox? > It sounds like you are trying to do it right. You must include the path > on your > command. Is it possible that you are missing a file - like a license file > in > you directory. It may be free now but was probably once shareware that > died > after a period if unpurchased. Most of the time they give away the dos > license > free now. > I run my dos on cf chips by itself. I have hundreds of nice programs from > the old days. > I built a screen menu with bat files. I type in a nunber followed by a > letter to start my programs. > When I exit it takes me back to c:\ where I started and redisplays the > menu with numbers > and letters listed for each program > > Good luck > cheers > DS > > > On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 05:18:42 -0800 "Knute Myhrvold" > writes: >> I want to run Fractint, an old DOS fractal image generater. >> I used to run it on Win95, 98, and NT, and it will run on some >> WinXPmachines, but not mine. >> So I have installed VirtualBox and finally successfully installed >> FreeDOS as a Guest in it... in the Settings I put FRACTINT.EXE and >> all its accompanying files into a "Shared Folder" for FreeDOS. >> >> But I still can't run Fractint. >> *(The Shared Folders are C:\DOS\fractint\FRACTINT.EXE ) >> >> The bottom of the running FreeDOS window shows C:\>_ >> By typing "dir" I see that FreeDOS DOES show Fractint! >> By typing "dir fractint" I see that FreeDOS lists the scores of >> files in the Fractint Folder, including "FRACTINT.EXE". >> >> But that's as far as I have gotten... HOW do I get FreeDOS to RUN >> Fractint? How is it done? >> Thanks for any help! >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> http://www.avast.com > > > ** >>From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry > http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 > *** > > > How Old Men Tighten Skin > 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54d01dc5229671dc51e3est03duc > > -- > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is > your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a > look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
On 2/2/2015 4:47 PM, Knute Myhrvold wrote: > Dennis, > Thank you kindly. > Actually, I have to admit that I have already installed that > FreeDOS-Fractint.ova into my VBox. When I type the command "dir" into it it > shows FRACTINT along with the other normal FreeDOS files. But I still can't > get it to RUN Fractint. Supposedly if I just type FRACTINT and then Enter, > that should do it (right?)... but it doesn't. > It's crazy, or maybe I am. But I'm not giving up; will write to David > Riccio to seek tips. > I gave you already the answer as to why it doesn't work. You are missing out at a very basic part of absolute basic DOS usage. The purpose and function of a PATH in DOS... Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
Dennis, Thank you kindly. Actually, I have to admit that I have already installed that FreeDOS-Fractint.ova into my VBox. When I type the command "dir" into it it shows FRACTINT along with the other normal FreeDOS files. But I still can't get it to RUN Fractint. Supposedly if I just type FRACTINT and then Enter, that should do it (right?)... but it doesn't. It's crazy, or maybe I am. But I'm not giving up; will write to David Riccio to seek tips. Thanks again, very much for your response. Knute - Original Message - From: "dmccunney" To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:05 PM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Freedos-user] How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox? > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Knute Myhrvold wrote: > >> But that's as far as I have gotten... HOW do I get FreeDOS to RUN >> Fractint? How is it done? >> Thanks for any help! > > If you go to Fractint.org and follow the pointers, you'll find a > virtual environments directory with this: > > Jun 10, 2014 FreeDOS-Fractint.ova - > Virtual Machine Appliance for Oracle VirtualBOX running FreeDOS with > Fractint v20 > Should run on just about any machine with the current VirtualBOX. > Thanks to David W. Riccio > > Perhaps using it would help you? > > Go to http://www.fractint.org/ftp/virtual_environments/ > __ > Dennis > https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 > > -- > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is > your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a > look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
Hi, On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Knute Myhrvold wrote: > > I did: type FRACTINT at the command line... have tried that several times. > Was I in the proper Folder? I thought so... after typing "dir fractint" > FreeDOS did display > the many files there, including "FRACTINT.EXE". I then typed FRACTINT and > again it didn't run. > And I have been studying DOS, esp. looking for commands that would > run/open/execute Fractint. > So far, nothing has worked. > Rather than anything else, could you please just say exactly what you would > type as a command > in VB FreeDOS to get Fractint to run? > > On 2/2/2015 5:18 AM, Knute Myhrvold wrote: > > I want to run Fractint, an old DOS fractal image generater. > I used to run it on Win95, 98, and NT, and it will run on some WinXPmachines, > but not mine. > So I have installed VirtualBox and finally successfully installed FreeDOS as > a Guest in it... > in the Settings I put FRACTINT.EXE and all its accompanying files into a > "Shared Folder" for FreeDOS. > > But I still can't run Fractint. > *(The Shared Folders are C:\DOS\fractint\FRACTINT.EXE ) > > The bottom of the running FreeDOS window shows C:\>_ > By typing "dir" I see that FreeDOS DOES show Fractint! > By typing "dir fractint" I see that FreeDOS lists the scores of files in the > Fractint Folder, > including "FRACTINT.EXE". > > But that's as far as I have gotten... HOW do I get FreeDOS to RUN Fractint? > How is it done? For me, I just used yet another (heavily modified) MetaDOS setup that I've been playing with. It's not very big, but it does have networking that works under VirtualBox (thanks to packet driver). The default FD 1.1 install should also have a working packet driver, at least for VBox. "wget http://www.fractint.org/ftp/current/dos/fractint-20.04p12.zip"; and "unzip fract*.zip" and "cd fractint.04p" and then "demo.bat" seems to run it correctly for me. Perhaps part of the confusion is trying to share "host" (?) files with your "guest" VM OS? I've honestly not tried that, so I can't say how that works. I don't think that's supported for DOS guests in VBox. Your alternatives, if this isn't convenient, is to try to use some kind of virtual floppy drive on Windows. Or similar way to insert files into a disk image. Actually, QEMU can do this, but I don't know about VBox. You could always read Ulrich's (LazyBrownDog? FD Wiki?) Networking tutorial, if you think it'll help. But I'm not sure setting up an FTP server is reasonably easy for you, though. Or just use VMware. FreeDOS did have one guy (Eduardo) contribute VMSMOUNT, which lets you access host/guest files easier, but I have no idea if VMware (fully?) works without VT-X. (I can't test everything.) Downloading yet another huge hypervisor is probably overkill. Or use DOSBox (slow 486 software-only emulator, not a real DOS, but it should work with such graphical programs like this, and it mounts host file system easily). Or install native FreeDOS to a bootable USB drive via RUFUS (although you may need help to boot from that, e.g. PLoP Boot Manager, if your WinXP machine is too old). Does any of this sound reasonably helpful? It could always be more obvious, of course, but it's hard to know what exactly you're trying to do. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
On 2/2/2015 9:37 AM, Knute Myhrvold wrote: Ralf, I did: type FRACTINT at the command line... have tried that several times. Well, good old Albert Einstein is attributed to shave said "It is insanity to do the same thing over and over again and expect different results" Was I in the proper Folder? I thought so... after typing "dir fractint" FreeDOS did display the many files there, including "FRACTINT.EXE". I then typed FRACTINT and again it didn't run. Well, if you do a "dir fractint" then you are only listing the contents of that folder, looking at it, nothing more... And I have been studying DOS, esp. looking for commands that would run/open/execute Fractint. So far, nothing has worked. Well, looks like one of those tutorials that I mentioned would indeed a good idea. Because you seem to have missed out on some very basic concepts of DOS (or other non-GUI OS). Rather than anything else, could you please just say exactly what you would type as a command in VB FreeDOS to get Fractint to run? To make it clear, this is nothing VirtualBox or FreeDOS specific, it is rather "DOS 101", at the most basic level... You need to understand the concept of folders and the concept of a "path" to a file or folder. That includes, as I already tried to elude to, the PATH variable and directive. Your problem is that you are in a folder one level above the fractint folder and the fractint folder is not included in your PATH environment variable (which tells DOS where to find executables). To remedy this, you can either include that path to the factint.exe executable to your PATH variable or you can change into the right folder by executing the CD (or CHDIR) command, a very basic internal DOS command around since DOS 2.0. Then almost magically, you will be able to execute your fractint.exe file... Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Bulk] Re: How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox?
Ralf, I did: type FRACTINT at the command line... have tried that several times. Was I in the proper Folder? I thought so... after typing "dir fractint" FreeDOS did display the many files there, including "FRACTINT.EXE". I then typed FRACTINT and again it didn't run. And I have been studying DOS, esp. looking for commands that would run/open/execute Fractint. So far, nothing has worked. Rather than anything else, could you please just say exactly what you would type as a command in VB FreeDOS to get Fractint to run? Thanks, I appreciate your time. Knute - Original Message - From: Ralf Quint To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 9:08 AM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Freedos-user] How to run Fractint in FreeDOS in VirtualBox? On 2/2/2015 5:18 AM, Knute Myhrvold wrote: I want to run Fractint, an old DOS fractal image generater. I used to run it on Win95, 98, and NT, and it will run on some WinXPmachines, but not mine. So I have installed VirtualBox and finally successfully installed FreeDOS as a Guest in it... in the Settings I put FRACTINT.EXE and all its accompanying files into a "Shared Folder" for FreeDOS. But I still can't run Fractint. *(The Shared Folders are C:\DOS\fractint\FRACTINT.EXE ) The bottom of the running FreeDOS window shows C:\>_ By typing "dir" I see that FreeDOS DOES show Fractint! By typing "dir fractint" I see that FreeDOS lists the scores of files in the Fractint Folder, including "FRACTINT.EXE". But that's as far as I have gotten... HOW do I get FreeDOS to RUN Fractint? How is it done? Just like you run ANY DOS program! Simply by typing FRACTINT at the command line given that a) you are in the factint folder on your virtual disk or b) that folder that contains FRACTINT.EXE is in your PATH In general, it seems you should learn the very basics of how DOS works, I guess any of the many DOS tutorials that are out there will do just fine. Beside that, it might still be possible that while that factint program will "run", it might not produce the output you expect, as it might require a graphics mode/driver that, at least by default, may or may not work in VirtualBox... Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
