Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse locking up; suggestings on things to try?
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:20:04 +0400, you wrote: Hi, > If you need "wide array of systems" and "not need wheels support" - >1.9.1 is your choice. 1.9.1 works with PS/2 mice on higher levels (through >BIOS, not directly with hardware) and, thus, should be more portable and >reliable. Agree! 1.9.1 should be kept absolute simple and portable, it works for most PC without any problem. For sophisticated functions the new 2.0a4 development thread is better. Rgds, Johnson. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse locking up; suggestings on things to try?
Hi! 28-Авг-2006 18:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Greenberg) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: AG> Which would recomend we use to work on the widest array of systems... AG> CuteMouse 1.9.1 or 2.0a4? We don't need any fancy support (we don't need AG> scroll wheels, etc), we just need it to be robust... meaning, not to crash. AG> Would you suggest one over the other? If you need "wide array of systems" and "not need wheels support" - 1.9.1 is your choice. 1.9.1 works with PS/2 mice on higher levels (through BIOS, not directly with hardware) and, thus, should be more portable and reliable. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse locking up; suggestings on things to try?
Probably 1.9.1 for stability. Although 2.0a4 works quite well for all of my computers. On 8/28/06, Andrew Greenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Arkady, > > Which would recomend we use to work on the widest array of systems... > CuteMouse 1.9.1 or 2.0a4? We don't need any fancy support (we don't need > scroll wheels, etc), we just need it to be robust... meaning, not to crash. > > Would you suggest one over the other? > > Thanks Arkady! > > Andrew > > > Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > > Hi! > > > > 24-Авг-2006 02:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Greenberg) wrote to > > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: > > > > AG> We're using cutemouse 2.0 alpha4 under FreeDOS 1.1.35W (Build 2035W), > > AG> HIMEM64 3.11, > > > > This (3.11) may be reason. Update to latest edition: > > > > ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/emmx225.zip > > > > and try again. > > > > AG> and FreeCOM 0.84-pre. We're using it on a large range of > > AG> systems, and we're getting lots of lock ups (on maybe 10% of the > > AG> systems). We don't mind if cutemouse fails and there's no mouse, but > we > > AG> do mind if it locks up up the system (which is what it's doing). > > AG> Any ideas on what we might try to stop it from locking up? > > AG> For example: > > AG> 1. All of our systems are fairly modern, so there's no COM mouses > (that > > AG> we know of). > > > > There was changed (fixed) EMM386 so, that it now correctly preserves > > interrupt flag when calling INT15 - whereas CuteMouse 2.0 depends > precisely > > on INT15 BIOS services. Before this change in EMM386, CuteMouse was locked > > (at least) in QEMU. This is why I recommend you firstly try latest EMM386 > > edition. > > > > AG> So should we use /P? > > > > No, PS/2 searched first. > > > > AG> 2. We don't understand /Y - if this is important, can someone explain > it > > AG> to us? > > > > Do you read ctmouse.txt "(This is because the Mouse Systems protocol > > defines no detection sequence). Option /Y in the command line disables > Mouse > > Systems protocol support and prevents driver installation if no mouse with > > Microsoft or Logitech protocol is found."? What precisely not understand > by > > you there? > > > > Let me rephrase: mice with Mouse Systems protocols can't be detected, > > so driver always installs itself on first available COM port (with support > > of Mouse System protocol) if there are no PS/2 or serial mice with other > > protocols. To prevent driver installation when there are no mice at all, > use > > /y option. > > > > AG> 3. Could this be a memory issue, and /W would help? > > > > I doubt. > > > > - > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- > > --- >Andrew Greenberg - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 503.788.1343 > --- > > > - > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse locking up; suggestings on things to try?
Hi Arkady, Which would recomend we use to work on the widest array of systems... CuteMouse 1.9.1 or 2.0a4? We don't need any fancy support (we don't need scroll wheels, etc), we just need it to be robust... meaning, not to crash. Would you suggest one over the other? Thanks Arkady! Andrew Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > Hi! > > 24-Авг-2006 02:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Greenberg) wrote to > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: > > AG> We're using cutemouse 2.0 alpha4 under FreeDOS 1.1.35W (Build 2035W), > AG> HIMEM64 3.11, > > This (3.11) may be reason. Update to latest edition: > > ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/emmx225.zip > > and try again. > > AG> and FreeCOM 0.84-pre. We're using it on a large range of > AG> systems, and we're getting lots of lock ups (on maybe 10% of the > AG> systems). We don't mind if cutemouse fails and there's no mouse, but we > AG> do mind if it locks up up the system (which is what it's doing). > AG> Any ideas on what we might try to stop it from locking up? > AG> For example: > AG> 1. All of our systems are fairly modern, so there's no COM mouses (that > AG> we know of). > > There was changed (fixed) EMM386 so, that it now correctly preserves > interrupt flag when calling INT15 - whereas CuteMouse 2.0 depends precisely > on INT15 BIOS services. Before this change in EMM386, CuteMouse was locked > (at least) in QEMU. This is why I recommend you firstly try latest EMM386 > edition. > > AG> So should we use /P? > > No, PS/2 searched first. > > AG> 2. We don't understand /Y - if this is important, can someone explain it > AG> to us? > > Do you read ctmouse.txt "(This is because the Mouse Systems protocol > defines no detection sequence). Option /Y in the command line disables Mouse > Systems protocol support and prevents driver installation if no mouse with > Microsoft or Logitech protocol is found."? What precisely not understand by > you there? > > Let me rephrase: mice with Mouse Systems protocols can't be detected, > so driver always installs itself on first available COM port (with support > of Mouse System protocol) if there are no PS/2 or serial mice with other > protocols. To prevent driver installation when there are no mice at all, use > /y option. > > AG> 3. Could this be a memory issue, and /W would help? > > I doubt. > > - > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- --- Andrew Greenberg - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 503.788.1343 --- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse locking up; suggestings on things to try?
> There was changed (fixed) EMM386 so, that it now correctly preserves > interrupt flag when calling INT15 - whereas CuteMouse 2.0 depends precisely > on INT15 BIOS services. Before this change in EMM386, CuteMouse was locked > (at least) in QEMU. This is why I recommend you firstly try latest EMM386 > edition. Aha! That might be it. We'll give the newer version a try. > Let me rephrase: mice with Mouse Systems protocols can't be detected > so driver always installs itself on first available COM port (with support > of Mouse System protocol) if there are no PS/2 or serial mice with other > protocols. To prevent driver installation when there are no mice at all, use > /y option. Oh! For whatever reason, we just didn't parse the wording correctly. Thanks for the better explanation. I think we'll add this to our options - it seems like it might be a good thing. Thanks Arkaday, Andrew -- --- Andrew Greenberg - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 503.788.1343 --- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse locking up; suggestings on things to try?
Hi! 24-Авг-2006 02:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Greenberg) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: AG> We're using cutemouse 2.0 alpha4 under FreeDOS 1.1.35W (Build 2035W), AG> HIMEM64 3.11, This (3.11) may be reason. Update to latest edition: ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/emmx225.zip and try again. AG> and FreeCOM 0.84-pre. We're using it on a large range of AG> systems, and we're getting lots of lock ups (on maybe 10% of the AG> systems). We don't mind if cutemouse fails and there's no mouse, but we AG> do mind if it locks up up the system (which is what it's doing). AG> Any ideas on what we might try to stop it from locking up? AG> For example: AG> 1. All of our systems are fairly modern, so there's no COM mouses (that AG> we know of). There was changed (fixed) EMM386 so, that it now correctly preserves interrupt flag when calling INT15 - whereas CuteMouse 2.0 depends precisely on INT15 BIOS services. Before this change in EMM386, CuteMouse was locked (at least) in QEMU. This is why I recommend you firstly try latest EMM386 edition. AG> So should we use /P? No, PS/2 searched first. AG> 2. We don't understand /Y - if this is important, can someone explain it AG> to us? Do you read ctmouse.txt "(This is because the Mouse Systems protocol defines no detection sequence). Option /Y in the command line disables Mouse Systems protocol support and prevents driver installation if no mouse with Microsoft or Logitech protocol is found."? What precisely not understand by you there? Let me rephrase: mice with Mouse Systems protocols can't be detected, so driver always installs itself on first available COM port (with support of Mouse System protocol) if there are no PS/2 or serial mice with other protocols. To prevent driver installation when there are no mice at all, use /y option. AG> 3. Could this be a memory issue, and /W would help? I doubt. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
