Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS lists messages

2012-04-09 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 9-4-2012 1:46, jasse...@itelefonica.com.br schreef:

> 1) there is not any useable .pdf viewer nor editor

muPDF was ported a while ago, listed on BTTR forums somewhere. Still not 
experimented with it, nor anything else announced there. My usual 
experiments involve VMware but graphics modes isn't its forte.

> 3) there is no javascript enabled browser, and the only one that
>supports https/ssl is Lynx.

I'm not sure of DILLO's capabilities.

> 4) Neither there is any CAD program that allows viewing or editing
>a .dxf file.
>   These are just examples that came to me now.

No idea what a dxf file would be, guess there's always ancient AutoCAD.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS lists messages

2012-04-08 Thread jasse...@itelefonica.com.br
Rugxulo  said in freedos-devel:

> It's UPX'd. ...
>
> 92531 -> 65846   71.16% dos/exe COMMAND.COM

 What command.com program do you refer to ? 
 That I use with FreeDOS (I downloaded it from ftp.ibiblio.org) 
is 93963 bytes long and has no UPX signature in it.

 Alex said in freedos-user:

> The underlying assumption is that FreeDOS is, as stated by others, a
> "niche OS", and we have no problem with that. Nor do we need to run
> after all the modern computer standards just for the sake of being
> abreast with the times.

 I think there is no need to seek to do things the same way as 
new O/Ss, nor to use all the resources available in modern computers,
but there is a need to comply with data format and communication 
standards used by new applications, or the niche will become more 
and more narrow. For instance, under DOS today
1) there is not any useable .pdf viewer nor editor 
2) the only DSL connection program is PEPA, which is paid, closed
  source and not at all easy to use.
3) there is no javascript enabled browser, and the only one that
  supports https/ssl is Lynx.
4) Neither there is any CAD program that allows viewing or editing 
  a .dxf file.
 These are just examples that came to me now.

Michael Robinson  said in freedos-user: 

> Something I've been mulling over is putting together a company that only
> produces standards compliant computer hardware where the standards are
> open ones that are readily available to everyone. It would be a big
> jump though to go from a B.S. in computer science to a company producing
> computer hardware that is both cutting edge and OSS compatible. What
> would the business model for such a company be?

IMHO a shoot on the foot. While I also would like to buy products from
such a company, I think all personal electronics companies nowadays 
did learn from, and will not repeat, the hanheld calculator mistake: 
suddenly, every company was making one and nobody could invent a way 
to make a model preferrable to others, so price competition took over 
and calculators were selling for less than the cost of their parts.

Eric Auer  said in freedos-user:

> Tiny chance. Look at DOS media players, they use source code
> of Linux drivers instead of reinventing the wheel or reverse
> engineering the drivers from the raw hardware.

 How did Linux developers write the drivers ? 
 
JAS


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