Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user Digest, Vol 375, Issue 1, networking software

2010-07-19 Thread Mr Sensible 
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 12:52 +0200, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
> Am 18.07.2010 00:01, schrieb Mr Sensible:
> > One of my projects on the back-burner is TcpLink that works the same way
> > LapLink does, but over a TCP/IP network, needs DOS packet drivers to
> > run, and uses WATTCP32 library. I have it successfully broadcasting its
> > presence over the network but haven't really done anything further.
> 
> I think this could be really useful. It is often a problem to exchange 
> data between new computers and old machines, because interfaces like 
> USB, LPT or serial port, a floppy drive or a CD/DVD drive don't exist 
> on both of them. A program with an easy GUI like laplink that works 
> over a crossover cable would be a real progress in my opinion.

Well at least you've shown interest. Once I get my current set of
projects out of the way I'll see what else I can do about this. 

Most likely, it'll be a DOS extender program - are there anyone out
there still using 8086 hardware?!
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user Digest, Vol 375, Issue 1, networking software

2010-07-19 Thread Ulrich Hansen 
Am 18.07.2010 00:01, schrieb Mr Sensible:
> One of my projects on the back-burner is TcpLink that works the same way
> LapLink does, but over a TCP/IP network, needs DOS packet drivers to
> run, and uses WATTCP32 library. I have it successfully broadcasting its
> presence over the network but haven't really done anything further.

I think this could be really useful. It is often a problem to exchange 
data between new computers and old machines, because interfaces like 
USB, LPT or serial port, a floppy drive or a CD/DVD drive don't exist 
on both of them. A program with an easy GUI like laplink that works 
over a crossover cable would be a real progress in my opinion.






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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user Digest, Vol 375, Issue 1, networking software

2010-07-17 Thread Ulrich Hansen 
Am 18.07.2010 00:32, schrieb Liam Proven:
> DOS 5.1? I don't remember any such version.

You're right, there wasn't. After MS-DOS 5.0 came MS-DOS 6.0.
I updated my first computer in 1993 with DOS 6 so I should
have remembered that. ;-)

Uli

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user Digest, Vol 375, Issue 1, networking software

2010-07-17 Thread Mr Sensible 
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 00:59 +0200, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
> Networking the two computers and transfer files over a crossover
> cable 
> is also possible, but it is a bit more work. The one thing you need
> to 
> find is a DOS driver for your network cards.
> 
> This might be either a "packet driver" (which is the easiest to use), 
> an "ODI" driver (file name ending "*.com", you find it in a directory 
> called "netware", "nwclient", "ODI" or "VLM" on the cards drivers 
> disk) or a "NDIS" driver (file name ending "*.DOS").
> 
> Which network cards exactly are you using?
> 
> Transferring files and directories can then be done with a lot of 
> tools. I think I would use a ftpserver and a ftp client. The method 
> over IPX, I wrote about two days ago, works, but it is not very 
> user-friendly, so I cannot really recommend it.

One of my projects on the back-burner is TcpLink that works the same way
LapLink does, but over a TCP/IP network, needs DOS packet drivers to
run, and uses WATTCP32 library. I have it successfully broadcasting its
presence over the network but haven't really done anything further.
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user Digest, Vol 375, Issue 1, networking software

2010-07-17 Thread Liam Proven 
On 16 July 2010 23:59, Ulrich Hansen  wrote:
> Hi Garrison,
>
> I think years ago with DOS 5.1 you may have connected the two
> computers with a parallel cable and used a software like laplink to
> connect them. This is also possible with freedos and you don't need
> any drivers for it.

DOS 5.1? I don't remember any such version.

InterLink appeared around the time of MS-DOS 6, I think, and I found
it very hand for many years. I never was a fan of Laplink. :¬)


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user Digest, Vol 375, Issue 1, networking software

2010-07-16 Thread Ulrich Hansen 
Hi Garrison,

I think years ago with DOS 5.1 you may have connected the two 
computers with a parallel cable and used a software like laplink to 
connect them. This is also possible with freedos and you don't need 
any drivers for it.

The only thing you need is the software and a parallel laplink cable, 
f.i. this one:


The laplink software was commercial and is still sold (but still 
expensive):


A free alternative is File Maven, that you can get here:


I just tried it out. The only thing I had to do to make it work, was 
to go into the configure menu, choose "Link" -  "Parallel" - and 
deselect "8-bit".

Another program, that does the job and is easy to use is Compaqs 
"Winlink", which I used for years.

Networking the two computers and transfer files over a crossover cable 
is also possible, but it is a bit more work. The one thing you need to 
find is a DOS driver for your network cards.

This might be either a "packet driver" (which is the easiest to use), 
an "ODI" driver (file name ending "*.com", you find it in a directory 
called "netware", "nwclient", "ODI" or "VLM" on the cards drivers 
disk) or a "NDIS" driver (file name ending "*.DOS").

Which network cards exactly are you using?

Transferring files and directories can then be done with a lot of 
tools. I think I would use a ftpserver and a ftp client. The method 
over IPX, I wrote about two days ago, works, but it is not very 
user-friendly, so I cannot really recommend it.

regards
Uli

PS: I really like your website.










Am 16.07.2010 18:00, schrieb Garrison Ricketson:
>
>
> Ok, Thank you;
> Ulrich Hansen (uli),andWilli Wasser, For the feed back, some of the sites you 
> list I had checked, but others no, years back, like 15,or 16 years ago, I did 
> connect my laptop,the early, Tandy,...I dont remember the whole name,...to 
> the Big computer at home, if I remeber right it was the LP, or parlel cable I 
> used, at that time I was useing MSdos 5.1 and I down loaded a software that I 
> used, but I cannot remember what its name was, and it was so long ago, who 
> knows where it might be, but it worked good, and very little hassle,
> FreeDos, I am sure can support this, with the correct software, packet 
> drivers etc...so far
> I still have not had any luck, but am going to keep trying, On the big 
> computer, it seems like it is ready, as the packet driver show, address 
> ,ectc...however the laptop, (acer netbook), is giveing me trouble, errors on 
> installing packet drivers, I have tried various...
> any way thanks on the feed back,..
> visit my webb page:http://garryspages.webs.com
> Garrison Ricketson
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user Digest, Vol 375, Issue 1, networking software

2010-07-16 Thread Garrison Ricketson 
 
 
Ok, Thank you;
Ulrich Hansen (uli),andWilli Wasser, For the feed back, some of the sites you 
list I had checked, but others no, years back, like 15,or 16 years ago, I did 
connect my laptop,the early, Tandy,...I dont remember the whole name,...to the 
Big computer at home, if I remeber right it was the LP, or parlel cable I used, 
at that time I was useing MSdos 5.1 and I down loaded a software that I used, 
but I cannot remember what its name was, and it was so long ago, who knows 
where it might be, but it worked good, and very little hassle,
FreeDos, I am sure can support this, with the correct software, packet drivers 
etc...so far 
I still have not had any luck, but am going to keep trying, On the big 
computer, it seems like it is ready, as the packet driver show, address 
,ectc...however the laptop, (acer netbook), is giveing me trouble, errors on 
installing packet drivers, I have tried various...
any way thanks on the feed back,..
visit my webb page:http://garryspages.webs.com
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