Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos users list,Networking software

2010-07-15 Thread Willi Wasser
Ulrich Hansen uhan...@mainz-online.de wrote:

 If someone else would like to help:
 Both laptops have a network card and an appropriate packet driver loaded. 
 The LEDs on the network cards were on, so they found a network.
 wattcp.cfg was configured to the IP adresses 192.168.0.1 (laptop 1) 
 and 192.168.0.2 (laptop 2). But pinging the other laptop didn't work 
 - wattcp ping complained: Cannot resolve host's hardware address. 
 Also the ping programs from mTCP and Datalight sockets didn't work. 
 The crossover cable connection works without a problem if I boot Debian Linux 
 on both of the laptops.

 Does anyone has an idea?


Please note that WATTCP is _NOT_ a permanently loaded TCP/IP stack in the same 
sense as it might be familiar from operating systems like LINUX or WINDOWS. 
It's rather a library that is linked directly into each application using 
WATTCP. As a consequence of this no TCP/IP functionality is available while no 
such program is running. 

Therefore ping cannot work in the set-up you described. Start on one of the 
computers a program that uses the WATTCP library and that doesn't terminate 
immediately. This might be either a server program or a client that waits for 
some user input. Then ping that computer from the other one and you should get 
a response.

In any case you would need a server (e.g. an FTP server) on one computer and a 
corresponding client program on the other one to transfer files. If it's just a 
simple file transfer, then a NETCAT program (which can be used in server _or_ 
client role) will do. Mike Brutman has such a program in his collection and i 
wrote a similar one, which i called NTOOL. It can be downloaded from here: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/. Which one you eventually 
prefer will be a matter of personal taste.
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos users list,Networking software

2010-07-15 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 15.07.2010 23:20, schrieb Willi Wasser:
 Please note that WATTCP is _NOT_ a permanently loaded TCP/IP stack
 in the same sense as it might be familiar from operating systems like LINUX 
 or WINDOWS.
 It's rather a library that is linked directly into each application using 
 WATTCP.
 As a consequence of this no TCP/IP functionality is available while no such 
 program is running.

Yes that was kind of stupid. I forgot that. Thanks!

I am able now to get a FTP connection over crossover cable with the 
resident ftp-server of Datalight sockets and also with the EZ-NOS 
ftp-server.

Uli




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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos users list,Networking software

2010-07-15 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 15.07.2010 23:20, schrieb Willi Wasser:
If it's just a simple file transfer, then a NETCAT program
 (which can be used in server _or_ client role) will do.
 Mike Brutman has such a program in his collection and
 i wrote a similar one, which i called NTOOL. It can be
 downloaded from here:
 http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/.
 Which one you eventually prefer will be a matter of personal taste.

I tried out your ntool. It works perfectly over a crossover cable. 
Mike Brutmans nc program also transfered a testfile without problem. 
The documentations of both programs come with easy examples how to 
transfer files.

Until now I accomplished file transfers between freedos boxes over 
crossover cable by
- FTP (server: EZNOS2, Datalight sockets, ftpsrv32 from the WATT32 
package)
- Netcat (ntool, nc)
- IPXCOPY (which I found interesting to discover...)
- MS Client (with netbeui protocol)

I also experimented with Kermit but didn't get it to work so far...
Uli

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos users list,Networking software

2010-07-13 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 13.07.2010 21:29, schrieb Garrison Ricketson:
 I am thinking about, or would like to just connect 2 computers, (laptop) and 
 Table top(IBM), both
 have fredos, and boot with freedos, I would like to connect the laptop to the
 bigger computer,  but with just a  cross over cable,Can FreeDos suport this?

 and I am not exactly sure how to do this, any suggestions?..Just a simple
 connection, as they are both mine, I dont need or want passwords, etc...
 just simple file viewing,copy,edit,delete or moveing..ok amy way if it is 
 not that simple, as simple as I  can find...thanks

Hi Garrison,
I spent the last two hours trying to connect two laptops with freedos 
with a cross over cable. It didn't work, sorry. I am still trying to 
find out why not.

If someone else would like to help:
Both laptops have a network card and an appropriate packet driver 
loaded. The LEDs on the network cards were on, so they found a 
network. wattcp.cfg was configured to the IP adresses 192.168.0.1 
(laptop 1) and 192.168.0.2 (laptop 2). But pinging the other laptop 
didn't work - wattcp ping complained: Cannot resolve host's hardware 
address. Also the ping programs from mTCP and Datalight sockets 
didn't work. The crossover cable connection works without a problem if 
I boot Debian Linux on both of the laptops.

Does anyone has an idea?

In the meantime, it might be a lot easier to use a parallel cable that 
you can plug into the printer ports (LPT) of your computers. The cable 
is also called a parallel Laplink cable. Then you can use a free DOS 
software like Filemaven http://www.briggsoft.com/fmdos.htm to view, 
copy, delete or move files between both computers.

Of course this is only possible, if both your computers still have 
printer ports.

Uli







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