Re: [Freedos-user] I'm looking for a way to use a USB floppy drive - I can boot from a CDROM drive o

2007-12-05 Thread David Zabriskie

I finally got the USB floppy drive able to boot after a BIOS update :)

I'm progressing... I 'shrank' the NTFS partitition and defined a fat16(LBA) 
partititon in the freed space.
I booted the install disc and got it mostly done, but I'm having difficulty 
setting up TCP/IP.
The config script detects the laptops onboard ethernet port
(Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC) and attempts to connect to my 
router's 
DHCP server and appears to hang there.  The router is setup to provide IPs 
in the range of 192.168.215.3-24 (.2 is a second router, .25  .26 are TCP/IP 
printers, 
.27 is a TCP/IP connected disc drive, 27-30 are unused) netmask 255.255.255.192 
gateway 192.168.215.1 dns 192.168.215.1 (router forwards to where ever its DHCP 
client got as DNS server(s)). This computer is supposed to get 192.168.215.5 
according 
to the routers pseudo-static MAC to IP mapping.

Is there a way specify the IP's and netmask to the TCP/IP client so it can set 
itself up?
something equivilent to ifconfig  route. I get stuck in the install process 
trying to 
get a DHCP connection to the router. Since the DHCP client never finishes, the 
install script 
can't go to the next thing to do. I was hoping I could specify the IPs and 
netmask manually
to avoid the DHCP client's hanging.

Can FreeDOS print to a TCP/IP connected LPR server? 

Thanks


 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 03:28:27 +0100
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 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] I'm looking for a way to use a USB floppy drive - 
 I can boot from a CDROM drive ok


 Hi David,

 actually a few 100 MB FAT16 should be fine for DOS already :-)
 Remember to use LBA partitions if you put them after the first
 8 GB of your disk. Depending on your boot menu, you will only
 be able to boot from primary partitions. You can NOT run our
 installer from within Windows, but you can unzip the package
 zips into a c:fdos directory to get the equivalent of a good
 part of the install process. You will then have to write the
 autoexec / config manually, though, and you will still have
 to boot DOS from USB, cdrom or diskette to run SYS to install
 the kernel, command.com and a boot sector on a FAT partition.
 There is also a SYS-style tool which can be used from within
 Linux, useful if you cannot boot any DOS from USB/CD/floppy.
 Note that DMF format might be a problem for USB floppy drives.
 You can actually copy the ISO to c:fdbootcd.iso and then boot
 from our special installer diskette: It will then mount the
 ISO and run the rest of the install process :-). Of course
 c: is what DOS calls c: here - the first FAT partition.

 Where can I get a driver set for a USB foppy drive

 If you have a good BIOS, the USB floppy will be visible to
 DOS. With some BIOSes, this only works if you actually do
 boot from the USB floppy. For generic USB storage such as
 USB sticks (flash drives) and external harddisks, there
 are a few DOS drivers available. I myself prefer USBASPI
 (Panasonic, version 2.15) and ASPIDISK (Adaptec?) which
 are both free but copyrighted and closed source. You load
 the USBASPI driver first and then load ASPIDISK which is
 a sort of create drive letters for SCSI/ASPI drives
 driver. Note that you do not need ASPIDISK for real SCSI
 harddisks because those already have a bootable BIOS so
 DOS creates drive letters itself at boot time already.

 Eric

 PS: You should not expect hotplugging with most drivers,
 but I guess some of the DOS USB drivers do support it
 maybe DUSE does...


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Re: [Freedos-user] I'm looking for a way to use a USB floppy drive - I can boot from a CDROM drive o

2007-12-05 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Wednesday 05 December 2007, David Zabriskie wrote:
 Is there a way specify the IP's and netmask to the TCP/IP client so it can
 set itself up? something equivilent to ifconfig  route. I get stuck in the
 install process trying to get a DHCP connection to the router.  Since the 
 DHCP client never finishes, the install script can't go to the next thing
 to do. I was hoping I could specify the IPs and netmask manually to avoid
 the DHCP client's hanging.

I think you shouldn't try to install the network at FreeDOS install.
Let FreeDOS install itself offline, and once you have clean and bootable 
FreeDOS install on your disk, go into the network configuration.
No, there isn't any ifconfig/route counterparts out of the box, you have to 
install them further.
FreeDOS (and the most of FreeDOS applications) is using the WatTCP library to 
access the network. To change your network settings you have to edit the 
WATTCP.CFG file, in which you can freely set your own IP, without relying on 
DHCP/BOOTP.

 Can FreeDOS print to a TCP/IP connected LPR server?

Yes and no.
FreeDOS doesn't have any support for network printers. Personally, I can use 
my network printer in FreeDOS, but it requires some dirty hacks ;-)
I uses the JetDirect protocol (port 9100), which is supported by most (if not 
all) LPR servers.

A paste from a previous post of mine:

To begin, there must be some software installed in the PATH:
1. WatTCP (http://www.bgnett.no/~giva/)
2. LPT2FILE (http://sac-ftp.externet.hu/utiltext15.html)
3. JD.EXE from PPRD 2.0 (http://www.smashco.com/wattcp/pprd200.zip)
4. A packet driver for your network card

I made a simple batch file, which calls the application I want to print with, 
catch all the LPT stuff to a file, and finally send the LPT file to the 
network printer:
-- [netprint.bat] --
LPT2FILE
%1
LPT2FILE %TEMP%\PRINTME.PRN
JD %TEMP%\PRINTME.PRN
DEL %TEMP%\PRINTME.PRN
-

Now, I have just to invoke the program I want with netprint program.exe, and 
all printing stuff will be done at the program's end. Of course, wattcp.cfg 
have to be configured according to the given LAN, and those lines have to be 
added:
PRINTERHOST = 192.168.xxx.xxx
PORTBASE = 9100
PRINTERNUM = 0

It's maybe not the most elegant way, but it works :-)
I tested that solution with the following printing software: WordPerfect 6.0, 
MS EDIT 2.0.026, PrintPartner 3.5, BannerMania 1.00, EnVision Pro 2.04, and I 
hadn't any troubles.


 Thanks

You're welcome ;-)
Mateusz Viste

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Re: [Freedos-user] I'm looking for a way to use a USB floppy drive - I can boot from a CDROM drive o

2007-12-05 Thread David Zabriskie



both those links fail :(

anywhere else to look for the instructs and list of packages?

 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:34:22 +0100
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 To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] I'm looking for a way to use a USB floppy drive - 
 I can boot from a CDROM drive o


 Hi David,

 I booted the install disc and got it mostly done, but I'm having
 difficulty setting up TCP/IP. The config script detects the laptops
 onboard ethernet port (Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC)
 and attempts to connect to my router's DHCP server and appears to hang
 there...

 You can set up the networking manually, but I do really recommend
 to do a plain offline install - which is also a lot faster. You
 can configure your network manually later, it is not strictly
 needed for installation. After all, DOS is no Ubuntu ;-). Just
 make sure you unselect the network related packages:

 I would recommend to install without network, see:
 http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall
 You can find a list of internet-using packages here:
 http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies
 ...

 For manual setup, you edit the wattcp.cfg file on the
 installed system later :-). There is an interactive
 setup thing in the installer, but there you cannot
 enter a DNS server IP, so it is kind of pointless?

 I hope Blair Campbell will provide a howto for fixing
 the interactive setup and for manual edit of wattcp.cfg,
 although the latter is semi self explaining ;-).

 Since the DHCP client never finishes, the install script can't
 go to the next thing to do. I was hoping I could specify the IPs
 and netmask manually to avoid the DHCP client's hanging.

 Can FreeDOS print to a TCP/IP connected LPR server?

 Dunno, many Linux packages were ported to DOS with the DJGPP
 GNU C compiler and C libraries for DOS. For example there is
 a DOS version of the command line tool smbclient for Samba.
 I think it was on mik.mkw.ru/dos-stuff/ :-).

 Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] I'm looking for a way to use a USB floppy drive - I can boot from a CDROM drive o

2007-12-05 Thread Ulrich Hansen
David Zabriskie schrieb:
 Can FreeDOS print to a TCP/IP connected LPR server? 

I don't know if this helps, but lpr (lpq, lprm) is part of several DOS 
TCP/IP networking suites including:

- NCSA Telnet (public domain)
ftp://ftp.uu.net/.vol/1/applic/NCSA_Telnet/PC/tel2308b.zip

- CUTCP (public domain)
ftp://ftp.cc.umanitoba.ca/software/pc_network/cutcp-b.zip

- WatTCP (GNU LGPL)
http://frontier.eas.asu.edu/linux/software/dos/wat1104.zip
Use the link above as Erick Engelke's download link on
http://www.erickengelke.com/wattcp/index.shtml seems to be broken. The 
compiled verisons are in the folder /apps/apps.zip

Good luck!
Ulrich Hansen





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