Re: [Freedos-user] Installing FreeDOS in a Qemu box.

2011-12-28 Thread jhall



> 
>> Also, you can try to NOT use emm386 and to NOT install USB and/or
>> network drivers: With the FreeDOS 1.0 ISO, I remember that those
>> two were very slow in detecting hardware etc. Another thing that
>> you can try is using Bernd's preview of FreeDOS 1.1 which is much
>> more up to date, including much newer drivers - thanks Bernd! :-)
> 
> I wouldn't try a "FULL" install if you're too impatient. Honestly,
> "damn slow" sounds like an exaggeration, how long is it taking? 30
> minutes? More than an hour? Just be patient. I know that's not what
> you want to hear, but it's either that or try something else (VMware
> Player? Bernd and Eduardo prefer that).
> 

For myself, I am partial to VirtualBox, when I need a full emulator. But DOSemu 
does the job for my FreeDOS work. ;-)


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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing FreeDOS in a Qemu box.

2011-12-27 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Eric Auer  wrote:
>
>> Are there any hints to install FreeDOS inside a Qemu box? I'm trying
>> this right now, but the installation process is damn slow. This is
>> the Qemu command line:
>
> Well Qemu emulates everything, including the CPU, as far as I
> remember - you could try Dosemu (if you use Linux or BSD) as
> that only emulates the I/O hardware such as the graphics card.

I don't think DOSEMU runs on *BSD anymore. But yes, it's faster as it
uses V86 mode, but it's Linux only (though i686 or AMD64).

QEMU 1.0 is latest version from a month ago, are you using that? Or
older? What host OS? What cpu? It's going to be slower as they long
ago dropped support for kqemu (kernel acceleration). You could
probably try one of the various forks, e.g. Xen, KVM, VirtualBox (as,
IIRC, they all are based upon it somewhat). If your cpu supports any
kind of VT-X (2006 on up, esp. AMD machines), that would greatly help
too.

>> qemu -cdrom ~/.qemu/fdbasecd.iso -hda ~/.qemu/freedos.img -boot
>> order=c,once=d -m 31M -k pt-br -soundhw sb16 -M pc -smp 1 -cpu
>> pentium -name FreeDOS -sdl
>>
>> I've tried several values to -cpu, including qemu32/64, pentium,
>> 486, core2duo; and also raise the -m value up to default (128M).
>
> Having a lot of RAM will not hurt, but 128 MB is really enough...

Heh. Depends on what you want to run. But I don't think any of that
will affect the speed much.

> Also, you can try to NOT use emm386 and to NOT install USB and/or
> network drivers: With the FreeDOS 1.0 ISO, I remember that those
> two were very slow in detecting hardware etc. Another thing that
> you can try is using Bernd's preview of FreeDOS 1.1 which is much
> more up to date, including much newer drivers - thanks Bernd! :-)

I wouldn't try a "FULL" install if you're too impatient. Honestly,
"damn slow" sounds like an exaggeration, how long is it taking? 30
minutes? More than an hour? Just be patient. I know that's not what
you want to hear, but it's either that or try something else (VMware
Player? Bernd and Eduardo prefer that).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing FreeDOS in a Qemu box.

2011-12-27 Thread James Hall
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Tiago O. de Almeida
 wrote:
> Are there any hints to install FreeDOS inside a Qemu box? I'm trying this
> right now, but the installation process is damn slow. This is the Qemu
> command line:
>
> qemu -cdrom ~/.qemu/fdbasecd.iso -hda ~/.qemu/freedos.img -boot
> order=c,once=d -m 31M -k pt-br -soundhw sb16 -M pc -smp 1 -cpu pentium -name
> FreeDOS -sdl
>
> I've tried several values to -cpu, including qemu32/64, pentium, 486,
> core2duo; and also raise the -m value up to default (128M).


QEMU is a full emulator, but sometimes emulators can run quite slow.
I'd just let the install process take as long as it needs to; you'll
only need to do that once. It should be fine after that.

If you have the option, you can also do a "manual install" of FreeDOS
by unzipping each of the install packages (which are just
specially-crafted zip files) into the C:\FDOS directory. This won't
install the kernel in a bootable way, but I think you can run SYS from
the installation CDROM. This should be faster, albeit a more manual
process.


-jh

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing FreeDOS in a Qemu box.

2011-12-26 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Tiago,

> Are there any hints to install FreeDOS inside a Qemu box? I'm trying
> this right now, but the installation process is damn slow. This is
> the Qemu command line:

Well Qemu emulates everything, including the CPU, as far as I
remember - you could try Dosemu (if you use Linux or BSD) as
that only emulates the I/O hardware such as the graphics card.

> qemu -cdrom ~/.qemu/fdbasecd.iso -hda ~/.qemu/freedos.img -boot
> order=c,once=d -m 31M -k pt-br -soundhw sb16 -M pc -smp 1 -cpu
> pentium -name FreeDOS -sdl
> 
> I've tried several values to -cpu, including qemu32/64, pentium,
> 486, core2duo; and also raise the -m value up to default (128M).

Having a lot of RAM will not hurt, but 128 MB is really enough...
Also, you can try to NOT use emm386 and to NOT install USB and/or
network drivers: With the FreeDOS 1.0 ISO, I remember that those
two were very slow in detecting hardware etc. Another thing that
you can try is using Bernd's preview of FreeDOS 1.1 which is much
more up to date, including much newer drivers - thanks Bernd! :-)

Happy holidays to everybody :-)

Regards, Eric

PS: To get the 1.1 preview, please get in touch with Bernd :-)



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