Re: [Freedos-user] Tandy 1000 compatibility
I believe back in those days, there were IBM compatibles, and IBM clones. Clones were, ...clones, like we have today, compatible would run DOS programs (WordStar, dBASE,etc.) but were not exactly the same. Replacing the OS with another is probably not gonna work. You could replace the command.com with 4DOS to get more features. but the MS-DOS.SYS is probably too hooked into the hardware. John On 07/22/2018 09:11 AM, geneb wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2018, Thomas Mueller wrote: I researched Tandy and Tandy 1000 on Wikipedia. It looks pretty obsolete, and it would be difficult to impossible to find compatible accessories such as keyboard, mouse, hard drive and other peripherals. Many (if not all) of the Tandy 1000 machines come with the same ISA bus that "normal" PC compatibles did. The mouse used is the same as any other PC, although for text-mode DOS, there's not much point with a mouse. :) Keyboards can be problematic, but they're out there. Also there's a number of Tandy 1000 models that have the keyboard built in. Even the floppy drive is not compatible with standard. Were you reading the misleading edition of the Wikipedia article on the Tandy 1000? ;) There are SOME models of the Tandy 1000 that use a special cable for the 3.5" drive that also supplied power - this was done on the units with the integrated keyboard and not the "Standard" 1000 models. That being said, the format of the media is the same as any other DOS machine. The Tandy 1000 should run FreeDOS just fine - I don't know of any Tandy-specific changes that were made to the stock MS-DOS that it ran. g. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Tandy 1000 compatibility
On Sat, 21 Jul 2018, Thomas Mueller wrote: I researched Tandy and Tandy 1000 on Wikipedia. It looks pretty obsolete, and it would be difficult to impossible to find compatible accessories such as keyboard, mouse, hard drive and other peripherals. Many (if not all) of the Tandy 1000 machines come with the same ISA bus that "normal" PC compatibles did. The mouse used is the same as any other PC, although for text-mode DOS, there's not much point with a mouse. :) Keyboards can be problematic, but they're out there. Also there's a number of Tandy 1000 models that have the keyboard built in. Even the floppy drive is not compatible with standard. Were you reading the misleading edition of the Wikipedia article on the Tandy 1000? ;) There are SOME models of the Tandy 1000 that use a special cable for the 3.5" drive that also supplied power - this was done on the units with the integrated keyboard and not the "Standard" 1000 models. That being said, the format of the media is the same as any other DOS machine. The Tandy 1000 should run FreeDOS just fine - I don't know of any Tandy-specific changes that were made to the stock MS-DOS that it ran. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Tandy 1000 compatibility
> It looks pretty obsolete I'm not running DOS for its relevance... > Even the floppy drive is not compatible with standard. Yeah, I know. I was thinking about seeing what that would take. Isn't the floppy disk management all done from software, though? > Where would you get Tandy 1000 and parts at reasonable price, if at all? I'll figure that out later. This is a long-term consideration, not something I plan to do next week. > Raspberry Pi comes to mind, but that might not be suitable for DOS. I'm not really sure where you're going with that. I mean, I've used Raspberry Pis for lots of things, but how would it come in handy for testing software for Tandy hardware? I guess I could run DOSBox on it, but I can do that on my regular PC, so I don't see the point. I'm also a retro hardware enthusiast, and emulation to me is just for casuals who want software to "just work". I'm after the authentic experience, not "close enough". Happy Hacking, David E. McMackins II Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com www.eff.org www.gnu.org www.fsf.org On 07/21/2018 06:07 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >> Has anyone here ever tested FreeDOS on a Tandy 1000? I've been >> considering getting one for some software testing, but it occurred to me >> that its slight differences might not be compatible with FreeDOS. > >> Happy Hacking, > >> David E. McMackins II > > I researched Tandy and Tandy 1000 on Wikipedia. > > It looks pretty obsolete, and it would be difficult to impossible to find > compatible accessories such as keyboard, mouse, hard drive and other > peripherals. > > Even the floppy drive is not compatible with standard. > > If you already have a Tandy 1000 or can get one free, you can try FreeDOS, > you might have to modify a few things. > > Where would you get Tandy 1000 and parts at reasonable price, if at all? > > Raspberry Pi comes to mind, but that might not be suitable for DOS. > > Toe > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Tandy 1000 compatibility
> Has anyone here ever tested FreeDOS on a Tandy 1000? I've been > considering getting one for some software testing, but it occurred to me > that its slight differences might not be compatible with FreeDOS. > Happy Hacking, > David E. McMackins II I researched Tandy and Tandy 1000 on Wikipedia. It looks pretty obsolete, and it would be difficult to impossible to find compatible accessories such as keyboard, mouse, hard drive and other peripherals. Even the floppy drive is not compatible with standard. If you already have a Tandy 1000 or can get one free, you can try FreeDOS, you might have to modify a few things. Where would you get Tandy 1000 and parts at reasonable price, if at all? Raspberry Pi comes to mind, but that might not be suitable for DOS. Toe -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
