Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
Para : GuillemDe : Javier De La Rosa Perigault e-mail : jdlrp...@yahoo.com Hola:A. Necesito hacer un disco multi-partición, que por lo menos contenga una partición con el equivalente de MSDOS 6.22, y una partición de Linux. Me puede ayudar ? Gracias,Javier De La Rosa Perigaultx On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:13 AM, Guillem wrote: I’ve tried DOSemu with the Orca screenreader before. it could read the screen in terminal or dumb mode, but for some reason, when new text scrolled into the screen, the screenreader read the whole screen. Haven’t had a chance to try this with speakup, and right now I doubt I could anyway since I somehow busted my speech dispatcher and my Orca’s pretty much dead. I believe VMWare is trying to emulate a Sound Blaster 16, or that’s what it says on the vmx file. I haven’t looked up much info about the soundcard under DOS though. What I do know is that VMWare does try to use a PC speaker, and windows doesn’t let it do that. For most vintage audiogames the PC speaker beeps are used to help you aim so they’re sort of important. > On 12 Jan 2015, at 20:24, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Guillem, > >> In response to Eric, I have tried DOSemu and I did manage to get the >> serial ports to work. I had a few problems with it, though. Neither the >> PC speaker or the Sound Blaster worked. To be honest I’m not sure if the >> netbook I was running it on has a PC speaker anyways. > > Normally, Dosemu uses the soundcard of your PC, not the > built-in speaker, and emulates a Sound Blaster for DOS. > >> Another one of my problems with DOSemu is that, for some reason, when i >> tried to use my DOS screenreader's review mode, the either the emulator >> or the reader crashed. I can’t get out of review mode and my only way >> out is by exiting the emulator. I could of course use terminal or dumb >> mode but those don’t like some of the games I’ve tried, such as Eamon >> Deluxe. > > My suggestion was to use not a screen reader for DOS, but > to use a screen reader for Linux. When you then run a DOS > game in dosemu, the screen reader should be able to read > that, too. It can help to use the text-only mode of dosemu, > which is admittedly less cool than the graphical xdosemu. > >> My most stable alternative right now is my Windows 3.1 VMWare virtual >> machine, which actually works pretty well both in DOS and Windows mode, > > Interesting idea! > >> except for the sound blaster which only works inside Windows. I might >> postpone the dualboot until a better alternative is available since I >> don’t think I’ll purchase a new laptop just for this. > > The so-called Sound Blaster PCI and Sound Blaster Live came > with their own DOS software which emulates a Sound Blaster: > Despite the name, those PCI sound cards actually have more > AC97 style hardware, so their DOS support only works through > their DOS TSR "driver" which seems to work quite okay once > you get it to work... Of course this does not help you for > a laptop, as you cannot exchange the soundcard there. Also, > I am not aware of DOS SoundBlaster emulation drivers for USB > sound sticks. Beyond the suggested dosemu and dosbox trick. > > Regards, Eric > > > > -- > New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. > GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. > Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. > Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. > www.gigenet.com > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
I’ve tried DOSemu with the Orca screenreader before. it could read the screen in terminal or dumb mode, but for some reason, when new text scrolled into the screen, the screenreader read the whole screen. Haven’t had a chance to try this with speakup, and right now I doubt I could anyway since I somehow busted my speech dispatcher and my Orca’s pretty much dead. I believe VMWare is trying to emulate a Sound Blaster 16, or that’s what it says on the vmx file. I haven’t looked up much info about the soundcard under DOS though. What I do know is that VMWare does try to use a PC speaker, and windows doesn’t let it do that. For most vintage audiogames the PC speaker beeps are used to help you aim so they’re sort of important. > On 12 Jan 2015, at 20:24, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Guillem, > >> In response to Eric, I have tried DOSemu and I did manage to get the >> serial ports to work. I had a few problems with it, though. Neither the >> PC speaker or the Sound Blaster worked. To be honest I’m not sure if the >> netbook I was running it on has a PC speaker anyways. > > Normally, Dosemu uses the soundcard of your PC, not the > built-in speaker, and emulates a Sound Blaster for DOS. > >> Another one of my problems with DOSemu is that, for some reason, when i >> tried to use my DOS screenreader's review mode, the either the emulator >> or the reader crashed. I can’t get out of review mode and my only way >> out is by exiting the emulator. I could of course use terminal or dumb >> mode but those don’t like some of the games I’ve tried, such as Eamon >> Deluxe. > > My suggestion was to use not a screen reader for DOS, but > to use a screen reader for Linux. When you then run a DOS > game in dosemu, the screen reader should be able to read > that, too. It can help to use the text-only mode of dosemu, > which is admittedly less cool than the graphical xdosemu. > >> My most stable alternative right now is my Windows 3.1 VMWare virtual >> machine, which actually works pretty well both in DOS and Windows mode, > > Interesting idea! > >> except for the sound blaster which only works inside Windows. I might >> postpone the dualboot until a better alternative is available since I >> don’t think I’ll purchase a new laptop just for this. > > The so-called Sound Blaster PCI and Sound Blaster Live came > with their own DOS software which emulates a Sound Blaster: > Despite the name, those PCI sound cards actually have more > AC97 style hardware, so their DOS support only works through > their DOS TSR "driver" which seems to work quite okay once > you get it to work... Of course this does not help you for > a laptop, as you cannot exchange the soundcard there. Also, > I am not aware of DOS SoundBlaster emulation drivers for USB > sound sticks. Beyond the suggested dosemu and dosbox trick. > > Regards, Eric > > > > -- > New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. > GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. > Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. > Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. > www.gigenet.com > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
Hi Guillem, > In response to Eric, I have tried DOSemu and I did manage to get the > serial ports to work. I had a few problems with it, though. Neither the > PC speaker or the Sound Blaster worked. To be honest I’m not sure if the > netbook I was running it on has a PC speaker anyways. Normally, Dosemu uses the soundcard of your PC, not the built-in speaker, and emulates a Sound Blaster for DOS. > Another one of my problems with DOSemu is that, for some reason, when i > tried to use my DOS screenreader's review mode, the either the emulator > or the reader crashed. I can’t get out of review mode and my only way > out is by exiting the emulator. I could of course use terminal or dumb > mode but those don’t like some of the games I’ve tried, such as Eamon > Deluxe. My suggestion was to use not a screen reader for DOS, but to use a screen reader for Linux. When you then run a DOS game in dosemu, the screen reader should be able to read that, too. It can help to use the text-only mode of dosemu, which is admittedly less cool than the graphical xdosemu. > My most stable alternative right now is my Windows 3.1 VMWare virtual > machine, which actually works pretty well both in DOS and Windows mode, Interesting idea! > except for the sound blaster which only works inside Windows. I might > postpone the dualboot until a better alternative is available since I > don’t think I’ll purchase a new laptop just for this. The so-called Sound Blaster PCI and Sound Blaster Live came with their own DOS software which emulates a Sound Blaster: Despite the name, those PCI sound cards actually have more AC97 style hardware, so their DOS support only works through their DOS TSR "driver" which seems to work quite okay once you get it to work... Of course this does not help you for a laptop, as you cannot exchange the soundcard there. Also, I am not aware of DOS SoundBlaster emulation drivers for USB sound sticks. Beyond the suggested dosemu and dosbox trick. Regards, Eric -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. www.gigenet.com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
(forwarding from Guillem) In response to Eric, I have tried DOSemu and I did manage to get the serial ports to work. I had a few problems with it, though. Neither the PC speaker or the Sound Blaster worked. To be honest I’m not sure if the netbook I was running it on has a PC speaker anyways. Another one of my problems with DOSemu is that, for some reason, when i tried to use my DOS screenreader's review mode, the either the emulator or the reader crashed. I can’t get out of review mode and my only way out is by exiting the emulator. I could of course use terminal or dumb mode but those don’t like some of the games I’ve tried, such as Eamon Deluxe. My most stable alternative right now is my Windows 3.1 VMWare virtual machine, which actually works pretty well both in DOS and Windows mode, except for the sound blaster which only works inside Windows. I might postpone the dualboot until a better alternative is available since I don’t think I’ll purchase a new laptop just for this. Thank you. > On 11 Jan 2015, at 22:19, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Guillem, > > for another solution of your screen reader problem, you could > use Linux (for which free screen readers and Braille drivers, > both serial and USB are available) and run your old DOS tools > in Dosemu or Dosbox inside Linux. That will emulate a classic > Sound Blaster for DOS, no matter what your actual hardware is > using for the sound. Would that be an option for you? > > Regards, Eric > > -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. vanity: www.gigenet.com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
I think you might need to consider a "vintage" laptop. I have FreeDOS installed on a Compaq Armada 1750 and using Mpxplay, the sound is amazing through front/top firing speakers with side bass ports. I have yet to get Qview configured properly, for sound, but since that is the case with every PC I own, it must be me. The Compaq Armada has a PII 366 processor, 320MB RAM, 800x600 graphics, ESS 1869 sound card, serial and parallel ports, video out port, Keyboard in, PCMCIA II (works great with wired D-Link card for FDNPKG install) and USB 1.1 as well as infrared transfer capabilities. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Matej Horvat wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:39:29 +0100, Guillem wrote: > > > My problem is, > > though, that being a quite modern HP computer made and bought in 2014, > > it does not have a serial port. Under windows 8.1, I have used a > > Prolific PL-2303 adapter. It works flawlessly and I can use all of the > > serial features of the Braille ’n Speak with it. The thing is, I haven’t > > seen any mention to this working under FreeDOS. Could anyone here tell > > me if it is possible to use one of these adapters? > > The DOSUSB drivers by Georg Potthast include a driver which claims to > support adapters with Prolific chipsets. I don't have such an adapter > myself, so I don't know how well it works. > > > This brings me to my second question. The sound card. I am aware that > > windows pretty much blocks out the PC speaker, even though I think my > > computer has one. FreeDOS does allow it, I believe. What I don’t know is > > if I’ll be able to actually somehow emulate a sound card, possibly a > > Sound Blaster compatible one, with the integrated realtek one my PC has. > > There is a program called VSB which emulates a Sound Blaster and sends the > output to the PC speaker or a Covox Speech Thing (which despite its name > is only a digital-to-analog converter connected to the parallel port). > However, it is only compatible with real mode software, and even then not > all of it. The quality, of course, is not that great, but it is probably > good enough for speech. > > > -- > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is > your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a > look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:39:29 +0100, Guillem wrote: > My problem is, > though, that being a quite modern HP computer made and bought in 2014, > it does not have a serial port. Under windows 8.1, I have used a > Prolific PL-2303 adapter. It works flawlessly and I can use all of the > serial features of the Braille ’n Speak with it. The thing is, I haven’t > seen any mention to this working under FreeDOS. Could anyone here tell > me if it is possible to use one of these adapters? The DOSUSB drivers by Georg Potthast include a driver which claims to support adapters with Prolific chipsets. I don't have such an adapter myself, so I don't know how well it works. > This brings me to my second question. The sound card. I am aware that > windows pretty much blocks out the PC speaker, even though I think my > computer has one. FreeDOS does allow it, I believe. What I don’t know is > if I’ll be able to actually somehow emulate a sound card, possibly a > Sound Blaster compatible one, with the integrated realtek one my PC has. There is a program called VSB which emulates a Sound Blaster and sends the output to the PC speaker or a Covox Speech Thing (which despite its name is only a digital-to-analog converter connected to the parallel port). However, it is only compatible with real mode software, and even then not all of it. The quality, of course, is not that great, but it is probably good enough for speech. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
