Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?

2010-06-20 Thread Jim Lemon
On 05/28/2010 11:49 PM, Alain Mouette wrote:

 I use Borland C 3.1 regularly on FreeDOS... have you tryed to configure
 the the lib directories in the IDE?

Hi Alain,
Yes, I set the directories and for some reason when I try to compile, 
the IDE reports that it can't open XXX.lib when I know that the 
libraries are all there. However, the same files compile fine on an 
ancient laptop that still has the 0.9 (?) version of FreeDOS. Of course 
I don't really want to depend on the old laptop, for it is really slow, 
and if it dies, I'm up the creek. I'm going to try to copy the libraries 
into the directory in which I'm compiling (blush) just to see if I can 
get some work done.

Jim

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Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?

2010-05-28 Thread Jim Lemon
On 05/28/2010 01:19 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote:
 ...
 I personally prefer Borlands C/C++ 3.1 myself, it's still after all
 those years the most usable DOS C/C++ compiler that still runs on 16
 bit DOS, though unfortunately, only the older version of Turbo C++
 1.01 is available  from Borland's/Imprise's/Codegear's/Embaradero's
 museums page as freeware (not Open Source). But still good enough if
 you in fact want to write real DOS programs...

Hi Ralf,
I have been using the Borland C compiler for some years, but ran into a 
problem with version 1.0 of FreeDOS. Since I upgraded from 0.9something, 
the IDE can no longer find libraries or object files that are not in the 
current directory, nor can I manually compile and link. I have managed 
to work around this by transferring a minimal subset of the Borland C 
installation to an old laptop that is still running 0.9something, but 
this is hardly an ideal solution. Do you have any information that might 
allow me to get Borland C to work under FreeDOS 1.0 and beyond? Thanks.

Jim


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Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?

2010-05-28 Thread Alain Mouette

Em 28-05-2010 08:46, Jim Lemon escreveu:
 I have been using the Borland C compiler for some years, but ran into a
 problem with version 1.0 of FreeDOS. Since I upgraded from 0.9something,
 the IDE can no longer find libraries or object files that are not in the
 current directory, nor can I manually compile and link. I have managed
 to work around this by transferring a minimal subset of the Borland C
 installation to an old laptop that is still running 0.9something, but
 this is hardly an ideal solution. Do you have any information that might
 allow me to get Borland C to work under FreeDOS 1.0 and beyond? Thanks.

I use Borland C 3.1 regularly on FreeDOS... have you tryed to configure 
the the lib directories in the IDE?

Alain

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Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?

2010-05-27 Thread insert silly name here
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 23:29 -0500, Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) wrote:

 The compiler (for DOS) hasn't seen any major updates since 1999.
 Though that may not be as much of a problem for DOS, but OpenWatcom
 would be a better choice I think.

That's fine, I'm only interested in the original Zorland/Zortech C
compiler. I already have Watcom and TurboC in my collection. 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?

2010-05-27 Thread Martin Woodhouse
Hi Conan

That wouldn't be Borland C, would it?  I built an entire e-book 
writing-reading-publishing suite for DOS using Borland C in 1989-91

Cheers

Martwww.martin-woodhouse.co.uk



From: Conan Kudo 
I was wondering if anyone knows more than there is on wikipedia? I'd be
interested in finding out more about that compiler and most importantly
if anyone's still got the binaries stored safely. I think that this
could be an important thing in the history of early C compilers that
included TurboC and its ilk.

I seem to remember writing a disk editor with Zorland C, would have to
be during the late 1990s. I still have the sources for that but can't
find the compiler that I originally used to write it.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?

2010-05-27 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 05:52 PM 5/27/2010, Martin Woodhouse wrote:
Hi Conan

That wouldn't be Borland C, would it?  I built an entire e-book 
writing-reading-publishing suite for DOS using Borland C in 1989-91
No, that wouldn't.

As already mentioned, the compiler he is looking for is now called 
Digital Mars C/C++ and is available as freeware for download from 
the author's (Walter Bright) web site at  www.digitalmars.com . The 
compiler was called in the past (in order of appearance)

Northwest Software C
Datalight C
Zorland C
Zortech C (after a nudge from Borland apparently)
Zortech C++
Symantec C++ (after selling the rights to Symantec)
Digital Mars C++ (after Walter got the rights back from Symantec)

And unfortunately, the compiler that can be downloaded nowadays does 
not run under 16 bit DOS as I previously mentioned, I was used to run 
it on the command line of a Windows 98 machine. Though it is capable 
of producing 16 bit DOS executables, it is a Win32 console program...

So the only still available 16 bit C compiler that still runs on 16 
bit DOS is DeSmet C 3.1 (which is now Open Source)...

I personally prefer Borlands C/C++ 3.1 myself, it's still after all 
those years the most usable DOS C/C++ compiler that still runs on 16 
bit DOS, though unfortunately, only the older version of Turbo C++ 
1.01 is available  from Borland's/Imprise's/Codegear's/Embaradero's 
museums page as freeware (not Open Source). But still good enough if 
you in fact want to write real DOS programs...

Ralf 


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Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?

2010-05-26 Thread ニール・ゴンパ
The compiler (for DOS) hasn't seen any major updates since 1999. Though that
may not be as much of a problem for DOS, but OpenWatcom would be a better
choice I think.

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote:

 At 05:15 PM 5/26/2010,
 =?ISO-2022-JP?B?Q29uYW4gS3VkbyAoGyRCJUshPCVrISYlNCVzJVEbKEIp?= wrote:
 The Zortech Compiler is now known as the Digital Mars C/C++
 compiler. I'd recommend you stay away from it.
 And why would that be?

 Ralf



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Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?

2010-05-26 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 09:29 PM 5/26/2010, 
=?ISO-2022-JP?B?Q29uYW4gS3VkbyAoGyRCJUshPCVrISYlNCVzJVEbKEIp?= wrote:
The compiler (for DOS) hasn't seen any major updates since 1999. 
Though that may not be as much of a problem for DOS, but OpenWatcom 
would be a better choice I think.

Sorry, but the compiler has been updated all along, the copy that I 
have around has a (c) from 2004 at least...

But a HUGE advantage is that the DM compiler at least still runs in 
plain DOS, contrary to the behemoth that OW has turned into...

Ralf 


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