Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-05-06 Thread BLAMETROI
From: BlameTroi 

Eric,

>> C:\ELVIS\DOC>find /i "env" e*.htm
>>  file list ...
>> Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure
>
> Does the same bug happen with find /i "env" C:e*.htm
> and with find /i "env" C:\elvis\doc\e*.htm by the way?

Yes it does. I've seen a few posts and such that sound somewhat
similar after running some searches, but nothing quite seemed to be
this problem.

Not a huge deal for me, there's no 15 seconds of drive A: clanking to
deal with :)

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Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-05-06 Thread ERIC AUER
From: Eric Auer 


Hi Troi,

> C:\ELVIS\DOC>find /i "env" e*.htm
>  file list ...
> Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure

You mean it FIRST checks all files in the current
directory on C: but THEN tries to jump to the A:
drive? That sounds like a bug in the kernel, either
in the drive status init or in findfirst / findnext
and to be honest I think that has happened before?

Does the same bug happen with find /i "env" C:e*.htm
and with find /i "env" C:\elvis\doc\e*.htm by the way?

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Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-05-06 Thread TOM EHLERT
From: Tom Ehlert 


I could reproduce this.

it happens in/after findnext()

this error is related to the compiler.

if the source is compiled using TurboC 2.01 the error occures.

compiling the exact same source with TCPP the error is gone.

try www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/findtcpp.com and
www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/findtc21.com

of course this can be a kernel bug, but as well a turbo library bug,
or some sort of interference between them.

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Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-05-06 Thread BLAMETROI
From: BlameTroi 

Eric,

In the three cases (mine and your two suggestions) if DOSLFN is loaded
and enabled, there is no sign of a problem.

If DOSLFN is not loaded, I get the error.

If DOSLFN has been loaded, but I disable it (DOSLFN /D), the error returns.

So, DOSLFN seems to "fix" the problem, at least from a user perspective.

This is FD 1.2.

Thanks again.

>>> It could be a rare kernel bug, but my guess is some buffer overflow in the
>>> IO95 lib. I think this problem is hidden by enabling DOSLFN.
>>
>> Yes indeed that did either mask or "fix" the problem. Thanks.
>
> In that case please tell in which situations the bug does
> happen and in which not, for example with/without having
> DOSLFN loaded :-) It could still be a bug caused by kernel
> limitations which affect LFN file listing more than 8.3?

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Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-05-06 Thread ERIC AUER
From: Eric Auer 


Hi Rugxulo and Troi,

>> It could be a rare kernel bug, but my guess is some buffer overflow in the
>> IO95 lib. I think this problem is hidden by enabling DOSLFN.
>
> Yes indeed that did either mask or "fix" the problem. Thanks.

In that case please tell in which situations the bug does
happen and in which not, for example with/without having
DOSLFN loaded :-) It could still be a bug caused by kernel
limitations which affect LFN file listing more than 8.3?

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Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-01-18 Thread Tom Ehlert
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I could reproduce this.

it happens in/after findnext()

this error is related to the compiler.

if the source is compiled using TurboC 2.01 the error occures.

compiling the exact same source with TCPP the error is gone.

try www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/findtcpp.com and
www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/findtc21.com

of course this can be a kernel bug, but as well a turbo library bug,
or some sort of interference between them.

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Re: [Freedos-user] after find, Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure.

2017-01-17 Thread Tom Ehlert

I could reproduce this.

it happens in/after findnext()

this error is related to the compiler.

if the source is compiled using TurboC 2.01 the error occures.

compiling the exact same source with TCPP the error is gone.

try www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/findtcpp.com and
www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/findtc21.com

of course this can be a kernel bug, but as well a turbo library bug,
or some sort of interference between them.

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Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-01-17 Thread Eric Auer
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Hi Troi,

> C:\ELVIS\DOC>find /i "env" e*.htm
>  file list ...
> Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure

You mean it FIRST checks all files in the current
directory on C: but THEN tries to jump to the A:
drive? That sounds like a bug in the kernel, either
in the drive status init or in findfirst / findnext
and to be honest I think that has happened before?

Does the same bug happen with find /i "env" C:e*.htm
and with find /i "env" C:\elvis\doc\e*.htm by the way?

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Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-01-17 Thread BlameTroi
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Eric,

>> C:\ELVIS\DOC>find /i "env" e*.htm
>>  file list ...
>> Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure
>
> Does the same bug happen with find /i "env" C:e*.htm
> and with find /i "env" C:\elvis\doc\e*.htm by the way?

Yes it does. I've seen a few posts and such that sound somewhat
similar after running some searches, but nothing quite seemed to be
this problem.

Not a huge deal for me, there's no 15 seconds of drive A: clanking to
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Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-01-17 Thread BlameTroi
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Eric,

In the three cases (mine and your two suggestions) if DOSLFN is loaded
and enabled, there is no sign of a problem.

If DOSLFN is not loaded, I get the error.

If DOSLFN has been loaded, but I disable it (DOSLFN /D), the error returns.

So, DOSLFN seems to "fix" the problem, at least from a user perspective.

This is FD 1.2.

Thanks again.

>>> It could be a rare kernel bug, but my guess is some buffer overflow in the
>>> IO95 lib. I think this problem is hidden by enabling DOSLFN.
>>
>> Yes indeed that did either mask or "fix" the problem. Thanks.
>
> In that case please tell in which situations the bug does
> happen and in which not, for example with/without having
> DOSLFN loaded :-) It could still be a bug caused by kernel
> limitations which affect LFN file listing more than 8.3?

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Re: [Freedos-user] after

2017-01-17 Thread Eric Auer
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Hi Rugxulo and Troi,

>> It could be a rare kernel bug, but my guess is some buffer overflow in the
>> IO95 lib. I think this problem is hidden by enabling DOSLFN.
> 
> Yes indeed that did either mask or "fix" the problem. Thanks.

In that case please tell in which situations the bug does
happen and in which not, for example with/without having
DOSLFN loaded :-) It could still be a bug caused by kernel
limitations which affect LFN file listing more than 8.3?

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Re: [Freedos-user] after find, Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure.

2017-01-16 Thread BlameTroi
Eric,

In the three cases (mine and your two suggestions) if DOSLFN is loaded
and enabled, there is no sign of a problem.

If DOSLFN is not loaded, I get the error.

If DOSLFN has been loaded, but I disable it (DOSLFN /D), the error returns.

So, DOSLFN seems to "fix" the problem, at least from a user perspective.

This is FD 1.2.

Thanks again.

>>> It could be a rare kernel bug, but my guess is some buffer overflow in the
>>> IO95 lib. I think this problem is hidden by enabling DOSLFN.
>>
>> Yes indeed that did either mask or "fix" the problem. Thanks.
>
> In that case please tell in which situations the bug does
> happen and in which not, for example with/without having
> DOSLFN loaded :-) It could still be a bug caused by kernel
> limitations which affect LFN file listing more than 8.3?

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Re: [Freedos-user] after find, Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure.

2017-01-16 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Rugxulo and Troi,

>> It could be a rare kernel bug, but my guess is some buffer overflow in the
>> IO95 lib. I think this problem is hidden by enabling DOSLFN.
> 
> Yes indeed that did either mask or "fix" the problem. Thanks.

In that case please tell in which situations the bug does
happen and in which not, for example with/without having
DOSLFN loaded :-) It could still be a bug caused by kernel
limitations which affect LFN file listing more than 8.3?

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Re: [Freedos-user] after find, Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure.

2017-01-16 Thread BlameTroi
> It could be a rare kernel bug, but my guess is some buffer overflow in the
> IO95 lib. I think this problem is hidden by enabling DOSLFN.

Yes indeed that did either mask or "fix" the problem. Thanks.

> But I personally just avoid Find and use Xgrep instead.

I probably will too as I learn what commands are available. I
remembered Find so that's what I used :)

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Re: [Freedos-user] after find, Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure.

2017-01-16 Thread BlameTroi
Eric,

>> C:\ELVIS\DOC>find /i "env" e*.htm
>>  file list ...
>> Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure
>
> Does the same bug happen with find /i "env" C:e*.htm
> and with find /i "env" C:\elvis\doc\e*.htm by the way?

Yes it does. I've seen a few posts and such that sound somewhat
similar after running some searches, but nothing quite seemed to be
this problem.

Not a huge deal for me, there's no 15 seconds of drive A: clanking to
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Re: [Freedos-user] after find, Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure.

2017-01-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Jan 16, 2017 11:24 AM, "Eric Auer"  wrote:
>
> > C:\ELVIS\DOC>find /i "env" e*.htm
> >  file list ...
> > Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure
>
> You mean it FIRST checks all files in the current
> directory on C: but THEN tries to jump to the A:
> drive? That sounds like a bug in the kernel, either
> in the drive status init or in findfirst / findnext

It could be a rare kernel bug, but my guess is some buffer overflow in the
IO95 lib. I think this problem is hidden by enabling DOSLFN.

But I personally just avoid Find and use Xgrep instead.
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Re: [Freedos-user] after find, Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure.

2017-01-16 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Troi,

> C:\ELVIS\DOC>find /i "env" e*.htm
>  file list ...
> Error reading from drive A: DOS area: general failure

You mean it FIRST checks all files in the current
directory on C: but THEN tries to jump to the A:
drive? That sounds like a bug in the kernel, either
in the drive status init or in findfirst / findnext
and to be honest I think that has happened before?

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and with find /i "env" C:\elvis\doc\e*.htm by the way?

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Re: [Freedos-user] After PG 1.14

2006-05-16 Thread Jim Hall
[...]
>> . I just look around my old FreeDOS release, START is quite nice to
>> play with.
>> I have an idea to make it better handle undefined file extension,
>> but I cannot compile start.c with its respective compiler -- Turbo C++
>> 1.01 or Borland C 4.0
>>
>> START can be dated back to 2000, does the author still care about it?
>> 
> No idea, who made it?
>   

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Re: [Freedos-user] After PG 1.14

2006-05-16 Thread Bernd Blaauw
BA HCL schreef:
> Hello,
>
> I guess most people get sick and tired to see more PG news
not at all, BAHCL, just don't know where to obtain your latest releases
from.
Nice to hear from you, by the way :)
> . I just look around my old FreeDOS release, START is quite nice to
> play with.
> I have an idea to make it better handle undefined file extension,
> but I cannot compile start.c with its respective compiler -- Turbo C++
> 1.01 or Borland C 4.0
>
> START can be dated back to 2000, does the author still care about it?
No idea, who made it?

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Re: [Freedos-user] after fdos boot : Kick!

2004-09-21 Thread markus
Hi

> > doesn't work to. see above :)
> 
> I have run into a problem similar to this problem on my Thinkpad - the
> system was refusing to reboot and the power button was putting the
> system into suspend mode.  My fix was to remove the battery from the
> laptop for 60 seconds then put the battery back in and turn the laptop
> on.  Problem went away.  On an older laptop I would have pushed the
> reset button in back but this newer thinkpad does not have a reset
> button.
> 

i didn't found a reset button, but after opening the case i found something that 
looked 
like a battery. after "desoldering" it from the board the "kick" went away too, seems 
it 
was really just getting into "suspend". kinda surprising for a laptop that is that old.
but thanks a lot for the idea.

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Re: [Freedos-user] after fdos boot : Kick!

2004-09-21 Thread BWMarcotte
Hi Markus,


> no, since i get "kick!" like i turn the pc on and get "kick!"
> doesn't even try to access the fdd or the hdd i think this
> "kick!" is stored somewhere now in a battery buffered area,
> like even if i remove the power plug and then turn it on again,
> it goes STRAIGT to kick doesn't show me the memory test or this
> "bios message" or the first blinking of fdd or hdd when u
> usualy tun on the pc...

>> another solution is to remove the METAKERN.SYS from the
>> diskette, and rename KERNEL.SYS into METAKERN.SYS that should
>> allow you to boot the diskette.

> doesn't work to. see above :)

I have run into a problem similar to this problem on my Thinkpad - the
system was refusing to reboot and the power button was putting the
system into suspend mode.  My fix was to remove the battery from the
laptop for 60 seconds then put the battery back in and turn the laptop
on.  Problem went away.  On an older laptop I would have pushed the
reset button in back but this newer thinkpad does not have a reset
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Re: [Freedos-user] after fdos boot : Kick!

2004-09-20 Thread markus
hi 



> this is Eric Auer's MetaKern bootloader that is being used.
> Option 1 is 386-specific,
> Option 2 is to boot the FreeDOS which is on the diskette.

yup, something like this :) 

> There it prints "KICK!" and then expects to find KERNEL.SYS
> are you sure KERNEL.SYS file is present on that diskette?
> 
kernel.sys is present

> can you please try a newer version?
> http://fdos.org/ripcord/beta9-final/test/B9BOOT01.IMG
> 

no, since i get "kick!" like i turn the pc on and get "kick!" doesn't even try to 
access the 
fdd or the hdd
i think this "kick!" is stored somewhere now in a battery buffered area, like even if 
i 
remove the power plug and then turn it on again, it goes STRAIGT to kick doesn't show 
me the memory test or this "bios message" or the first blinking of fdd or hdd when u 
usualy tun on the pc...

> another solution is to remove the METAKERN.SYS from the diskette, and 
> rename KERNEL.SYS into METAKERN.SYS
> that should allow you to boot the diskette.
> 

doesn't work to. see above :)

have a nice day

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Re: [Freedos-user] after fdos boot : Kick!

2004-09-20 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Hello Markus,
this is Eric Auer's MetaKern bootloader that is being used.
Option 1 is 386-specific,
Option 2 is to boot the FreeDOS which is on the diskette.
There it prints "KICK!" and then expects to find KERNEL.SYS
are you sure KERNEL.SYS file is present on that diskette?
can you please try a newer version?
http://fdos.org/ripcord/beta9-final/test/B9BOOT01.IMG
another solution is to remove the METAKERN.SYS from the diskette, and 
rename KERNEL.SYS into METAKERN.SYS
that should allow you to boot the diskette.

Perhaps Eric used some 386+ code in his bootloader, don't know.
Bernd
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