Re: [Freedos-user] moslo and clock speed
I know that tppatch doesn't work just scramble up the exe, fustrating. this is one of the programs I got working again, its a system identification tool and terminal emulator. http://digitalatoll.com/pub/DMSOFT/CPUS-V2.ZIP On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 12/4/2013 12:33 AM, Chris Evans wrote: > > I just installed Robert Prins crt70 replacement and it seems to have > > worked, compiled one the programs it ran okay with default dosemu > > clock settings. > > > That one as well as the earlier replacement from Pedt Scragg, both from > the links to JR Stockton's page work just fine if you have the source... > > Ralf > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > > -- > Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK > Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. > Download it for free now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] moslo and clock speed
On 12/4/2013 12:33 AM, Chris Evans wrote: > I just installed Robert Prins crt70 replacement and it seems to have > worked, compiled one the programs it ran okay with default dosemu > clock settings. > That one as well as the earlier replacement from Pedt Scragg, both from the links to JR Stockton's page work just fine if you have the source... Ralf --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] moslo and clock speed
I just installed Robert Prins crt70 replacement and it seems to have worked, compiled one the programs it ran okay with default dosemu clock settings. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 12/3/2013 9:16 PM, Chris Evans wrote: > >> > >> i was able to find rpcrt100.zip but the other isn't available > >> I tried this route once before and ended up with broken .exes > >> (don't remember details as it was years ago so i gave up and moved to > >> linux and gcc) > > 1). Always keep backups of the original .EXEs. This is more crucial if > you're using private binaries you made yourself (or that aren't freely > re-distributable). > > 2). Try all available patches until one works for you. Admittedly, > they don't all work perfectly in all circumstances. I'm no expert, but > here's a few (from vague memory): > > a). http://www.mecronome.de/xfdisk/files/bp7crt.zip > b). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilprog/tppatch.zip > c). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilprog/bppat102.zip > d). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilprog/r200fix.zip > > 3). Recompile with updated CRT units. This is more complicated, but I > don't have access to commercial versions, so I can't say for sure. > (IIRC, only BP7 [and/or TP7??] had this bug, so TP55 doesn't need it > unless manually using CRT's Delay or such.) > > 4). Rebuild with a different compiler (FPC, GPC, TMT, etc.), if you > have access to the sources. This may not be that feasible (huge > understatement), but it's definitely the overall better way. (No > offense, but "giving up and moving to Linux and GCC" is hardly a > solution to anything. I mean, that's an overreaction, IMO, to things > which are minor bugs.) > > 5). Run some kind of slowdown util or emulation environment. > Apparently you say DOSEMU wasn't good enough. I know DOSBox is slow > because it's 486 slow by default! :-) And you can adjust the > cycles manually even slower! Also, I recently mentioned that I got an > old shareware demo of Chasm: The Rift (BP7) to work on my 3.2 Ghz > machine (a few years ago) by using HDPMI16 and "fdapm speed3". > > > -- > Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK > Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. > Download it for free now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] moslo and clock speed
Hi, On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 12/3/2013 9:16 PM, Chris Evans wrote: >> >> i was able to find rpcrt100.zip but the other isn't available >> I tried this route once before and ended up with broken .exes >> (don't remember details as it was years ago so i gave up and moved to >> linux and gcc) 1). Always keep backups of the original .EXEs. This is more crucial if you're using private binaries you made yourself (or that aren't freely re-distributable). 2). Try all available patches until one works for you. Admittedly, they don't all work perfectly in all circumstances. I'm no expert, but here's a few (from vague memory): a). http://www.mecronome.de/xfdisk/files/bp7crt.zip b). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilprog/tppatch.zip c). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilprog/bppat102.zip d). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilprog/r200fix.zip 3). Recompile with updated CRT units. This is more complicated, but I don't have access to commercial versions, so I can't say for sure. (IIRC, only BP7 [and/or TP7??] had this bug, so TP55 doesn't need it unless manually using CRT's Delay or such.) 4). Rebuild with a different compiler (FPC, GPC, TMT, etc.), if you have access to the sources. This may not be that feasible (huge understatement), but it's definitely the overall better way. (No offense, but "giving up and moving to Linux and GCC" is hardly a solution to anything. I mean, that's an overreaction, IMO, to things which are minor bugs.) 5). Run some kind of slowdown util or emulation environment. Apparently you say DOSEMU wasn't good enough. I know DOSBox is slow because it's 486 slow by default! :-) And you can adjust the cycles manually even slower! Also, I recently mentioned that I got an old shareware demo of Chasm: The Rift (BP7) to work on my 3.2 Ghz machine (a few years ago) by using HDPMI16 and "fdapm speed3". -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] moslo and clock speed
On 12/3/2013 9:16 PM, Chris Evans wrote: > i was able to find rpcrt100.zip but the other isn't available > I tried this route once before and ended up with broken .exes > (don't remember details as it was years ago so i gave up and moved to > linux and gcc) The only systems that I can't run my old BP7 programs anymore (use quite a few little utilities, including a small editor) are 64bit Windows systems, as they lack a DOS environment. Otherwise, I have run those tools on machines as fast as 3.4GHz (both Xeon and P4/Core). As I mentioned, the solutions to this problem are as old as the problem itself... Ralf --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] moslo and clock speed
i was able to find rpcrt100.zip but the other isn't available I tried this route once before and ended up with broken .exes (don't remember details as it was years ago so i gave up and moved to linux and gcc) On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 12/3/2013 7:56 PM, Chris Evans wrote: > > Why is moslo lock up when i run moslo menu.exe? > > > > Setting the clock speed in dosemu.conf isnt reliable as that sometimes > > allows program to run. > > > > I need better solution to allow my borland pascal .exes to run on fast > cpu > In case you don't know about the fix and your Google-Fu isn't that > strong, try J.R.Stockton's Pascal site: > > http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pas-r200.htm > > Ralf > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > > -- > Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK > Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. > Download it for free now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] moslo and clock speed
On 12/3/2013 7:56 PM, Chris Evans wrote: > Why is moslo lock up when i run moslo menu.exe? > > Setting the clock speed in dosemu.conf isnt reliable as that sometimes > allows program to run. > > I need better solution to allow my borland pascal .exes to run on fast cpu In case you don't know about the fix and your Google-Fu isn't that strong, try J.R.Stockton's Pascal site: http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pas-r200.htm Ralf --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] moslo and clock speed
On 12/3/2013 7:56 PM, Chris Evans wrote: > Why is moslo lock up when i run moslo menu.exe? > > Setting the clock speed in dosemu.conf isnt reliable as that sometimes > allows program to run. > > I need better solution to allow my borland pascal .exes to run on fast cpu If they are "your" Borland Pascal programs, compile them with a proper CRT unit, the fix is around as long as that problem exists... Ralf --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
