Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

2012-09-10 Thread Petr Spacek

On 09/08/2012 02:05 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote:

On 07/27/2012 10:30 AM, Petr Spacek wrote:

On 07/27/2012 03:28 PM, John Dennis wrote:

On 07/27/2012 02:06 AM, Dan Scott wrote:

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is relevant, but Firefox preserves session
cookies across browser restarts. This was discussed on the Security
Now! podcast recently:

http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-360.htm

Search for 'sessionstore' and read a little before and after.

Are session cookies relevant for kerberos authentication?


It's only tangentially relevant. IPA does use session cookies. IPA
logout
destroys the session on the server making the session cookie stored
in the
browser invalid.

However, SSO (Single Sign-On) continues to work as it's supposed to.
As long
as you have valid credentials in your kerberos cache you'll be
automatically
logged in (albeit with a brand new session and session cookie). All
this is by
design.

You can logout of IPA which destroys your session, but unless you
also destroy
your credentials the automatic SSO process will be applied the next
time you
visit the web UI.



Would it be possible to add "login as another user" functionality? I
mean "destroy session && ignore any Kerberos tickets && start
form-based auth"?

IMHO it could be handy, at least for demonstration purposes.



Please log a ticket.


https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3064

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Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

2012-09-07 Thread Dmitri Pal
On 07/27/2012 10:30 AM, Petr Spacek wrote:
> On 07/27/2012 03:28 PM, John Dennis wrote:
>> On 07/27/2012 02:06 AM, Dan Scott wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if this is relevant, but Firefox preserves session
>>> cookies across browser restarts. This was discussed on the Security
>>> Now! podcast recently:
>>>
>>> http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-360.htm
>>>
>>> Search for 'sessionstore' and read a little before and after.
>>>
>>> Are session cookies relevant for kerberos authentication?
>>
>> It's only tangentially relevant. IPA does use session cookies. IPA
>> logout
>> destroys the session on the server making the session cookie stored
>> in the
>> browser invalid.
>>
>> However, SSO (Single Sign-On) continues to work as it's supposed to.
>> As long
>> as you have valid credentials in your kerberos cache you'll be
>> automatically
>> logged in (albeit with a brand new session and session cookie). All
>> this is by
>> design.
>>
>> You can logout of IPA which destroys your session, but unless you
>> also destroy
>> your credentials the automatic SSO process will be applied the next
>> time you
>> visit the web UI.
>>
>>
> Would it be possible to add "login as another user" functionality? I
> mean "destroy session && ignore any Kerberos tickets && start
> form-based auth"?
>
> IMHO it could be handy, at least for demonstration purposes.
>

Please log a ticket.


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Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

2012-07-27 Thread Petr Spacek

On 07/27/2012 03:28 PM, John Dennis wrote:

On 07/27/2012 02:06 AM, Dan Scott wrote:

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is relevant, but Firefox preserves session
cookies across browser restarts. This was discussed on the Security
Now! podcast recently:

http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-360.htm

Search for 'sessionstore' and read a little before and after.

Are session cookies relevant for kerberos authentication?


It's only tangentially relevant. IPA does use session cookies. IPA logout
destroys the session on the server making the session cookie stored in the
browser invalid.

However, SSO (Single Sign-On) continues to work as it's supposed to. As long
as you have valid credentials in your kerberos cache you'll be automatically
logged in (albeit with a brand new session and session cookie). All this is by
design.

You can logout of IPA which destroys your session, but unless you also destroy
your credentials the automatic SSO process will be applied the next time you
visit the web UI.


Would it be possible to add "login as another user" functionality? I mean 
"destroy session && ignore any Kerberos tickets && start form-based auth"?


IMHO it could be handy, at least for demonstration purposes.

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Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

2012-07-27 Thread John Dennis

On 07/27/2012 02:06 AM, Dan Scott wrote:

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is relevant, but Firefox preserves session
cookies across browser restarts. This was discussed on the Security
Now! podcast recently:

http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-360.htm

Search for 'sessionstore' and read a little before and after.

Are session cookies relevant for kerberos authentication?


It's only tangentially relevant. IPA does use session cookies. IPA 
logout destroys the session on the server making the session cookie 
stored in the browser invalid.


However, SSO (Single Sign-On) continues to work as it's supposed to. As 
long as you have valid credentials in your kerberos cache you'll be 
automatically logged in (albeit with a brand new session and session 
cookie). All this is by design.


You can logout of IPA which destroys your session, but unless you also 
destroy your credentials the automatic SSO process will be applied the 
next time you visit the web UI.



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Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

2012-07-27 Thread Sigbjorn Lie
What you're seing is Kerberos single sign on in action. You might log out of 
the web interface,
but the next time you open firefox a new automatic sign on by kerberos is 
happening.

If you kdestroy your kerberos credentials you can no longer access any 
kerberized services, until
you request new kerberos credentials.

You can check this by accessing the ipa web interface, run "klist", see that 
there is a
HTTP/your-ipa-server.fqdn. Run "kinit", then run "klist" and all your tickets 
are gone. Access the
IPA web interface again, run klist and you'll see a HTTP/your-ipa-server.fqdn. 
Kerberos single
sign on in action. :)

Rgds,
Siggi


On Fri, July 27, 2012 06:39, Steven Jones wrote:
> So if i just click on logout, I should just logout as if i kdestroy'd?
>
>
> If so, when I do that why doesnt that "cleanup" occur?
>
>
> regards
>
> Steven Jones
>
>
> Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE
>
>
> Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
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>
> 
> From: Simo Sorce [s...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Friday, 27 July 2012 4:01 p.m.
> To: Steven Jones
> Cc: freeipa-users@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA
>
>
> On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 03:14 +, Steven Jones wrote:
>
>> When in IPA, when I click on the "logout" I expect to logout so I can login 
>> as another user,
>>
>>
>> ===
>> Logged In As: steven jones | Logout
>> ===
>>
>>
>> Clicking on logout, and clearing history in Firefox and even closing all 
>> instances of Firefox
>> and restarting see me looged back in as my adm account...
>>
>> So what do I need to do to flush?  reboot my workstation?
>>
>
> logout or manually run kdestroy
>
> Simo.
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Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

2012-07-26 Thread Dan Scott
Hi,

I'm not sure if this is relevant, but Firefox preserves session
cookies across browser restarts. This was discussed on the Security
Now! podcast recently:

http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-360.htm

Search for 'sessionstore' and read a little before and after.

Are session cookies relevant for kerberos authentication?

Maybe you could try a different browser to see if logging out works.

Thanks,

Dan

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Steven Jones  wrote:
> So if i just click on logout, I should just logout as if i kdestroy'd?
>
> If so, when I do that why doesnt that "cleanup" occur?
>
> regards
>
> Steven Jones
>
> Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE
>
> Victoria University, Wellington, NZ
>
> 0064 4 463 6272
>
> 
> From: Simo Sorce [s...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Friday, 27 July 2012 4:01 p.m.
> To: Steven Jones
> Cc: freeipa-users@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA
>
> On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 03:14 +, Steven Jones wrote:
>> When in IPA, when I click on the "logout" I expect to logout so I can login 
>> as another user,
>>
>> ===
>> Logged In As: steven jones | Logout
>> ===
>>
>> Clicking on logout, and clearing history in Firefox and even closing all 
>> instances of Firefox and restarting see me looged back in as my adm 
>> account...
>>
>> So what do I need to do to flush?  reboot my workstation?
>
> logout or manually run kdestroy
>
> Simo.
>
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Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

2012-07-26 Thread Steven Jones
So if i just click on logout, I should just logout as if i kdestroy'd?

If so, when I do that why doesnt that "cleanup" occur?

regards

Steven Jones

Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE

Victoria University, Wellington, NZ

0064 4 463 6272


From: Simo Sorce [s...@redhat.com]
Sent: Friday, 27 July 2012 4:01 p.m.
To: Steven Jones
Cc: freeipa-users@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 03:14 +, Steven Jones wrote:
> When in IPA, when I click on the "logout" I expect to logout so I can login 
> as another user,
>
> ===
> Logged In As: steven jones | Logout
> ===
>
> Clicking on logout, and clearing history in Firefox and even closing all 
> instances of Firefox and restarting see me looged back in as my adm account...
>
> So what do I need to do to flush?  reboot my workstation?

logout or manually run kdestroy

Simo.

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Re: [Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

2012-07-26 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 03:14 +, Steven Jones wrote:
> When in IPA, when I click on the "logout" I expect to logout so I can login 
> as another user,
> 
> ===
> Logged In As: steven jones | Logout 
> ===
> 
> Clicking on logout, and clearing history in Firefox and even closing all 
> instances of Firefox and restarting see me looged back in as my adm account...
> 
> So what do I need to do to flush?  reboot my workstation?

logout or manually run kdestroy

Simo.

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[Freeipa-users] unable to logout of IPA

2012-07-26 Thread Steven Jones
When in IPA, when I click on the "logout" I expect to logout so I can login as 
another user,

===
Logged In As: steven jones | Logout 
===

Clicking on logout, and clearing history in Firefox and even closing all 
instances of Firefox and restarting see me looged back in as my adm account...

So what do I need to do to flush?  reboot my workstation?


regards

Steven Jones

Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE

Victoria University, Wellington, NZ

0064 4 463 6272


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