Re: [Freeipa-users] backup plan
@Steven Jones I prefer a pure FOSS solution that has good community support. @Lucas Yamanishi I will check out the links. This weekend I played around with VirtualBox and I was surprised how much script-ability it has. I'd previously only used it in a desktop/GUI context so I was not up to speed on all it's automation features. VirtualBox is a hosted hypervisor but that doesn't bother me. Machines are so powerful these days a little overhead isn't a big deal... plus having a host OS opens up a lot of possibilities. libvirt looks super powerful but there is a lot of overlap with the management tools already in VirtualBox. I might not need anything more. One of the tests I did was exporting the VM and doing a binary delta on it against a previous full backup ( the full backup is basically the pristine VM of the freshly installed and synced replica) . It takes a while to run but the diff packs the backup down quite a bit. It's not a native snapshot but after some though I realized that's not really what I want. The desire is backups with some type of check pointing, to allow for fast recovery and a few fall back options. I would not ever actually use the snapshot since this is just for disaster recovery. The ability to rebuild the VM in it's latest state is the primary goal, the secondary goals being simplicity and frugality of storage use. The nice thing about the scheme is on a minimal install the full backup plus several delta files will easily fit on a DVD. The deltas can be sent offsite easily as they are not very large. Still plenty more research and testing to do but so far this seems like a workable scheme to facilitate "back up everything" without using much storage and in a way I can get my head around. -Aaron On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Lucas Yamanishi wrote: > The libvirt range of tools works very well with KVM, and with > virt-manager, they are easy to setup on the desktop or from a remote > desktop. QEMU-KVM suports the QCOW2 and LVM storage back-ends, both of > which have snapshot capabilities, and the virsh tool makes it easy and > scriptable. They are all licensed under the GPL or LGPL. > http://libvirt.org http;//linux-kvm.org http://qemu.org > > If you're using a Red Hat-based distribution, installing them should be > as easy as "yum install libvirtd virt-manager qemu-kvm" or similar. > > - > *question everything*learn something*answer nothing* > > Lucas Yamanishi > -- > Systems Administrator, ADNET Systems, Inc. > NASA Space and Earth Science Data Analysis (606.9) > 7515 Mission Drive, Suite A100 > Lanham, MD 20706 * 301-352-4646 * 0xE23F3D7A > > > On 08/13/2012 07:14 PM, bin.e...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've been doing a bit of research on back up and restore of FreeIPA and > > so far the best plan seems to be "just back up everything" > > > > That's fine except for "back up everything" doesn't lend itself to > > automation on a bare metal instance (which is what my primary and > > replica are). To be safe I would need to take the machine down rather > > than try to do a hot back up. (sync everything and backup from an > > inactive fs of better yet unmounted fs) > > > > That got me thinking, how about a vm? They are easy to stop, checkpoint, > > back up and restart. > > > > I want to run this by everyone and see what you think: > > > > Install a replica on a vm and then use THAT to capture "back ups". > > > > If it looks like a reasonable idea, does anyone have a suggestion for > > which hypervisor would be best to use? (preferably FOSS) I only have > > experience with VirtualBox but I'm not sure it's up to this type of > project? > > > > Thanks! > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > > > ___ > > Freeipa-users mailing list > > Freeipa-users@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users > > > > ___ Freeipa-users mailing list Freeipa-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
Re: [Freeipa-users] backup plan
The libvirt range of tools works very well with KVM, and with virt-manager, they are easy to setup on the desktop or from a remote desktop. QEMU-KVM suports the QCOW2 and LVM storage back-ends, both of which have snapshot capabilities, and the virsh tool makes it easy and scriptable. They are all licensed under the GPL or LGPL. http://libvirt.org http;//linux-kvm.org http://qemu.org If you're using a Red Hat-based distribution, installing them should be as easy as "yum install libvirtd virt-manager qemu-kvm" or similar. - *question everything*learn something*answer nothing* Lucas Yamanishi -- Systems Administrator, ADNET Systems, Inc. NASA Space and Earth Science Data Analysis (606.9) 7515 Mission Drive, Suite A100 Lanham, MD 20706 * 301-352-4646 * 0xE23F3D7A On 08/13/2012 07:14 PM, bin.e...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been doing a bit of research on back up and restore of FreeIPA and > so far the best plan seems to be "just back up everything" > > That's fine except for "back up everything" doesn't lend itself to > automation on a bare metal instance (which is what my primary and > replica are). To be safe I would need to take the machine down rather > than try to do a hot back up. (sync everything and backup from an > inactive fs of better yet unmounted fs) > > That got me thinking, how about a vm? They are easy to stop, checkpoint, > back up and restart. > > I want to run this by everyone and see what you think: > > Install a replica on a vm and then use THAT to capture "back ups". > > If it looks like a reasonable idea, does anyone have a suggestion for > which hypervisor would be best to use? (preferably FOSS) I only have > experience with VirtualBox but I'm not sure it's up to this type of project? > > Thanks! > > -Aaron > > > > ___ > Freeipa-users mailing list > Freeipa-users@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users > ___ Freeipa-users mailing list Freeipa-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
Re: [Freeipa-users] backup plan
for business use? ie do you want support? Licencing might be fun I use the free vsphere v4 VMware ESXi at home which allows a modest 1 pc setupnot sure if that can be used in business setting.you get no support at least, but its the best Virtualisation platform Ive come across. So I boot off a 4gb USB key with a hardware raid 1 from 2 x 1tb disk setup and a 1 x 2 tb green disk off the motherboard for backups. You can do db2ldif outputs, then rsync or scp those off to a small 128meg ram debian guest which is how I plan to do it. In terms of checkpointing or snapshoting they this tech is best described as spawn of the devil and avoided...multiple snapshots of considerable age impacts disk i/o regards Steven Jones Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE Victoria University, Wellington, NZ 0064 4 463 6272 From: freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com [freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com] on behalf of bin.e...@gmail.com [bin.e...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2012 11:14 a.m. To: freeipa-users@redhat.com Subject: [Freeipa-users] backup plan Hi all, I've been doing a bit of research on back up and restore of FreeIPA and so far the best plan seems to be "just back up everything" That's fine except for "back up everything" doesn't lend itself to automation on a bare metal instance (which is what my primary and replica are). To be safe I would need to take the machine down rather than try to do a hot back up. (sync everything and backup from an inactive fs of better yet unmounted fs) That got me thinking, how about a vm? They are easy to stop, checkpoint, back up and restart. I want to run this by everyone and see what you think: Install a replica on a vm and then use THAT to capture "back ups". If it looks like a reasonable idea, does anyone have a suggestion for which hypervisor would be best to use? (preferably FOSS) I only have experience with VirtualBox but I'm not sure it's up to this type of project? Thanks! -Aaron ___ Freeipa-users mailing list Freeipa-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
