[Freesurfer] Convert label file to STL file‏

2014-07-10 Thread Mat yuki
Dear Freesurfer Experts,
 
I'm trying to convert .label file to .stl file.
In more detail of my purpose, I want to get separate stl files of whole brain. 
Now, I want to make stl files of label files which made from 
?h.aparc.a2009s.annot.
 
First, I tried to convert lh.pial to lh.pial.stl, I've got it (this was just 
check how mris_convert works).
Second, I copied lh. white file from surf dir into label dir. Then, I runed 
next command:
 
cd subjid/label
mris_convert --label lh.bankssts.label bankssts lh.white lh.bankssts.label.stl
 
And got the error message: ERROR: unknown file annot file type specified for 
output: lh.bankssts.label.stl
 
Do you know what could have gone wrong? 

Thank you,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Group analysis tutorial

2014-07-10 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke
Hi Qijing,
Under the 'Freeview dev build' section on this wiki page you can download 
an updated version of freeview.

http://freesurfer.net/fswiki/Download

-Louis

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Qijing Yu wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 
 By new version, do you mean v5.3.0?
 
 Qijing
 
 
 On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

   Yea, that is actually a feature in the new version
 

   On 07/02/2014 02:17 PM, Joshua S wrote:
Hi all,
I was following the group analysis tutorial when I got an
   error when
trying to view the uncorrected significance map with freeview.
   I used
the command freeview -f
   
 $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage/surf/lh.inflated:annot=aparc.annot:overlay=lh.gende
   r_age.glmdir/lh-Avg-thickness-age-Cor/sig.mgh:overlay_threshold=4,5
-viewport 3d. I removed the annot_outline=1, because it gave
   an
error. Sig.mgh would not load, and I would get the attached
   image. I
tried to manually add sig.mgh through add surface, but the
   program
immediatley closed, and I got the message in the attached
   error.log.
Text below.
   
Thank you for any help,
Josh
Did not find any volume geometry information in the surface
???Tgreading colortable from annotation file...
colortable with 36 entries read (originally
   
 /autofs/space/terrier_001/users/nicks/freesurfer/average/colortable_desikan
   _killiany.txt)
colortable with 36 entries read (originally
   
 /autofs/space/terrier_001/users/nicks/freesurfer/average/colortable_desikan
   _killiany.txt)
Did not find color table in track volume.
[0]PETSC ERROR:
   
   
[0]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation
   Violation,
probably memory access out of range
[0]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or
   -on_error_attach_debugger
[0]PETSC ERROR: or see
   
 http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation/troubleshooting.html#Si
   gnal[0]PETSC
ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on linux or man libgmalloc
   on Apple
to find memory corruption errors
[0]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes,
   recompile, link,
and run
[0]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
[0]PETSC ERROR: - Error Message

[0]PETSC ERROR: Signal received!
[0]PETSC ERROR:
   
   
[0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 2.3.3, Patch 13, Thu May
   15
17:29:26 CDT 2008 HG revision:
   4466c6289a0922df26e20626fd4a0b4dd03c8124
[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/changes/index.html for recent
   updates.
[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/faq.html for hints about trouble
   shooting.
[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/index.html for manual pages.
[0]PETSC ERROR:
   
   
[0]PETSC ERROR: Unknown Name on a linux-gnu named
  farklemt.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu http://farklemt.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 by
  dc325 Wed Jul 2 11:35:56 2014
  [0]PETSC ERROR: Libraries linked from
 /autofs/space/lyon_006/pubsw/Linux2-2.3-x86_64/packages/petsc/2.3.3-p13/src
 /petsc-2.3.3-p13/lib/linux-gnu-c-opt
  [0]PETSC ERROR: Configure run at Tue Aug 10 15:01:59 2010
  [0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --with-debugging=no --with-cc=gcc
  --with-fc=g77 --download-f-blas-lapack=0 --download-mpich=1
  --with-mpi=1 --with-x=0 --with-gnu-copyright-code=0 --with-shared=0
  COPTFLAGS=-O3 CXXOPTFLAGS=-O3 FOPTFLAGS=-O3
  [0]PETSC ERROR:
 
 
  [0]PETSC ERROR: User provided function() line 0 in unknown directory
  unknown file
  [unset]: aborting job:
  application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 59) - process 0
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] bad freesurfer segmentation

2014-07-10 Thread Doety Prins
Hi Bruce,

Thanks for your reply. In my previous e-mail I already tried to attach one of 
my subjects, but got the response that the message was too big, and therefore 
it was rejected. So how should I upload the image? The images are T1-weighted, 
3D, acquired with a 3T scanner, resolution 256 256.

I discovered that FSL does a proper segmentation on this subjects, so I was 
looking for a way to import these segments from FSL into the Freesurfer 
pipeline, but I didn't succeed so far. I used the white matter segment from FSL 
as wm.mgz (in a subject in which I already ran recon-all), I used mri_vol2vol 
to get this segment in the right space, and normalized with mri_normalize. Then 
I rerun recon-all with -autorecon2-wm. But it gives me the error message: 
'ERROR: mri_segment-MRIcheckVolDims: volume1 depth=160 != volume2 depth=256.' 
So apparently, the wm.mgz still doesn't have the right size. Do you have any 
experience with this? Or any ideas about this?

Best regards,

Doety

On 9 jul. 2014, at 15:00, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Doety
 
 yes, that looks pretty bad. Can you tell us about the acquisition? What 
 resolution/field strength/scan type was it?
 
 If you upload the subject we will take a look
 
 cheers
 Bruce
 On Wed, 9 Jul 2014, Doety 
 Prins 
 wrote:
 
 Dear freesurfer experts,
 
 I experienced some problems with the segmentation of my T1 scans, as both 
 the white surface and the pial surface are placed incorrectly (see attached 
 images). This seems to me to be a too big difference with what it should 
 look like, that I think could not be fixed with the standard 
 troubleshooting strategies.
 
 Do you have any solutions for this? Is it for instance possible to make 
 changes to the recon-all script to shift the surfaces?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Doety
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Convert label file to STL file‏

2014-07-10 Thread Matt Glasser
It probably thinks the STL file is just a mesh without coloring.

Peace,

Matt.

From:  Mat yuki matsuyuki2...@outlook.jp
Reply-To:  Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Date:  Thursday, July 10, 2014 at 7:19 AM
To:  freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject:  [Freesurfer] Convert label file to STL file‏

Dear Freesurfer Experts,
 
I'm trying to convert .label file to .stl file.
In more detail of my purpose, I want to get separate stl files of whole
brain. 
Now, I want to make stl files of label files which made from
?h.aparc.a2009s.annot.
 
First, I tried to convert lh.pial to lh.pial.stl, I've got it (this was just
check how mris_convert works).
Second, I copied lh. white file from surf dir into label dir. Then, I runed
next command:
 
cd subjid/label
mris_convert --label lh.bankssts.label bankssts lh.white
lh.bankssts.label.stl
 
And got the error message: ERROR: unknown file annot file type specified for
output: lh.bankssts.label.stl
 
Do you know what could have gone wrong?

Thank you,
Yuki.   
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Re: [Freesurfer] bad freesurfer segmentation

2014-07-10 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke
Hi Doety,
Consider these options for uploading data:
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FtpFileExchange
https://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html

I think recon-all is expecting your wm.mgz to be conformed or 256^3. 
Something like: mri_convert wm.mgz wm.conform.mgz --conform

You would need to rename wm.conform.mgz to wm.mgz, after renaming or 
saving a copy of the current non-conformed wm mask you got from FSL.
-Louis

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Doety Prins wrote:

 Hi Bruce,

 Thanks for your reply. In my previous e-mail I already tried to attach one of 
 my subjects, but got the response that the message was too big, and therefore 
 it was rejected. So how should I upload the image? The images are 
 T1-weighted, 3D, acquired with a 3T scanner, resolution 256 256.

 I discovered that FSL does a proper segmentation on this subjects, so I was 
 looking for a way to import these segments from FSL into the Freesurfer 
 pipeline, but I didn't succeed so far. I used the white matter segment from 
 FSL as wm.mgz (in a subject in which I already ran recon-all), I used 
 mri_vol2vol to get this segment in the right space, and normalized with 
 mri_normalize. Then I rerun recon-all with -autorecon2-wm. But it gives me 
 the error message: 'ERROR: mri_segment-MRIcheckVolDims: volume1 depth=160 != 
 volume2 depth=256.' So apparently, the wm.mgz still doesn't have the right 
 size. Do you have any experience with this? Or any ideas about this?

 Best regards,

 Doety

 On 9 jul. 2014, at 15:00, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Doety

 yes, that looks pretty bad. Can you tell us about the acquisition? What
 resolution/field strength/scan type was it?

 If you upload the subject we will take a look

 cheers
 Bruce
 On Wed, 9 Jul 2014, Doety
 Prins
 wrote:

 Dear freesurfer experts,

 I experienced some problems with the segmentation of my T1 scans, as both 
 the white surface and the pial surface are placed incorrectly (see 
 attached images). This seems to me to be a too big difference with what it 
 should look like, that I think could not be fixed with the standard 
 troubleshooting strategies.

 Do you have any solutions for this? Is it for instance possible to make 
 changes to the recon-all script to shift the surfaces?

 Thanks in advance,

 Doety


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Re: [Freesurfer] combining aseg and seg_edited files for an atlas

2014-07-10 Thread Douglas N Greve

If you have matlab, it would be pretty easy to do it there, something like

aseg = MRIread('aseg.mgz');
seg = MRIread('seg_edited.mgz');

% Your first seg inside cerebellum
indseg1 = find(seg.vol == 1  (aseg.vol == 8 | aseg.vol == 47));
% cerebellum cortex = 8 and 47, see $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

aseg.vol(indseg1) = X1; % X1 = whatever index you want for your first 
segmentation, make it unique

MRIwrite(aseg,'newaseg.mgz')



On 07/09/2014 01:26 PM, N/A N/A wrote:
 Hi Freesurfer forum,

 I have never used the forum before but I am a long time user of 
 Freesurfer and I am currently working on making a new atlas for the 
 cerebellum. However I am having a problem loading my /seg_edited.mgz/ 
 files into the /rebuild_gca_atlas.csh/ script. So I renamed my 
 /aseg.mgz/ file to /seg_edited/ and that worked but my resulting image 
 is not great.

 I think it did not work with my original /seg_edited/ file because the 
 atlas needed cortex data to complete the process and my original 
 /seg_edited/ file did not have and my /aseg/ does.

 I would like to try and combine my /aseg/ file and my original 
 /seg_edited/ files together but I realized that no one has apparently 
 asked about doing that before on your forums. Is there anyway to 
 combine those files?

 I would appreciate any advise on the matter!

 Thank you,
 Alexarae Bryon

 FIU student


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Re: [Freesurfer] Compiling data from lobesStrict

2014-07-10 Thread Douglas N Greve
I don't think you need to do steps 2 and 3. Just run 
mri_annotomical_stats on the lobes annot just like it is done for aparc. 
Look in the recon-all.log file for the command line
doug
On 07/08/2014 02:42 PM, krista kelly wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm trying to extract cortical thickness data from each lobe per 
 participant. Here are the commands I used so far:

 1) create annotation file for lobes: mri_annotation2label --subject $s 
 --hemi lh --lobesStrict lh.lobesStrict.annot

 2) extract lobe labels: mri_annotation2label --subject $s --hemi lh 
 --annotation lobesStrict --outdir $s/label

 3) create stats file for each lobe per participant: 
 mris_anatomical_stats -a $s/label/lh.lobesStrict.annot -b -f 
 $s/stats/lh.lobesStrict.stats

 PROBLEM: I'm stuck now on how to compile all of the data into one 
 file. I've tried:

 aparcstats2table --subjects subjectlist --parc lobesStrict.annot 
 --hemi lh –meas thickness --tablefile lh.lobesStrict.thickness.stats.txt

 I've also tried:

 asegstats2table --subjects subjectlist --subdir=stats --statsfile 
 lh.lobesStrict --tablefile lh.lobesStrict.thickness.stats.txt

 None of these work. Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

 Thanks!
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Re: [Freesurfer] input anatomy orientation

2014-07-10 Thread Douglas N Greve

This is expected, unfortunately. When you change the orientation, it 
changes the interpolation which changes things slightly. Those areas are 
all pretty small so the changes can appear to be large (though they are 
only a few percent).

doug

On 07/09/2014 01:42 PM, Kathy L. Pearson wrote:
 I have run FreeSurfer 5.3 recon-all, getting different stats output, for 
 these cases of anatomy input:
  (1) mprage DICOM series converted with dcm2nii
  (2) fslreorient2std (RL PA IS) on the dcm2nii output
  (3) mprage DICOM series converted with mri_convert

 Differing example results include these from lh.BA.stats:
  case 1:
  BA1  1115583   2017  2.511 
 0.650 0.175 0.155   66 9.1
  BA2  3686   2392   5986  2.342 
 0.615 0.123 0.047   44 7.2

  case 2:
  BA1  1043585   2060  2.569 
 0.637 0.181 0.226  169 4.8
  BA2  3569   2357   6064  2.397 
 0.612 0.123 0.050   38 5.9

  case 3:
  BA1  1071558   1994  2.583 
 0.617 0.159 0.181   66 6.5
  BA2  3654   2364   6191  2.461 
 0.631 0.121 0.058   42 6.9

 Is this as expected?  Are there any options that I should apply to indicate 
 that the orientation is RL PA IS if I use the same anatomy.nii.gz file in 
 case #2 as prepared for FSL?  Or must I always either use mri_convert to 
 generate the input for recon-all?  Or is there a command I should be running 
 first to reset my RL PA IS image to a particular orientation required by 
 recon-all?

 Thanks,

 Kathy Pearson

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Re: [Freesurfer] Categorical covariates with more than two levels on qdec

2014-07-10 Thread Douglas N Greve

You cannot use qdec for this. You must use the command line stream. 
There is a tutorial for this as well as a presentation on our wiki. 
Basically, you will need to create your FSGD file, run mris_preproc, 
mri_surf2surf to smooth, mri_glmfit, and mri_glmfit-sim

doug


On 07/09/2014 03:43 AM, Isotalus, Hanna wrote:
 Subject: Categorical covariates with more than two levels  on qdec

 Categorical covariates with more than two levels  on qdec

 Dear Freesurfer experts,


 I am doing an analysis on a large data set gathered from eight different 
 imaging centres. In my analysis I would like to covary for the imaging site 
 but qdec only allows me to covary for categorical variables if they have two 
 levels (and I have eight). I am also using age (continuous) and gender 
 (categorical, two levels) as covariates.


 Is there a way of using the imaging site as a covariate using qdec? Do you 
 have any suggestions on how I should proceed? Is treating imaging site as a 
 continuous variable acceptable?

 Best wishes,

 Hanna

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Re: [Freesurfer] Jacobian mri_cvs_register

2014-07-10 Thread Lilla Zollei


Hi Andre

You can run:

mri_jacobian -tm3d 3d morph template volume output volume

--Lilla

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, André Ribeiro wrote:


Dear Freesurfer Community,

How can I obtain the Jacobian of the deformation field estimated through 
mri_cvs_register for further use like VBM analysis?


Regards,
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[Freesurfer] Jacobian mri_cvs_register

2014-07-10 Thread André Ribeiro
Dear Freesurfer Community,

How can I obtain the Jacobian of the deformation field estimated through
mri_cvs_register for further use like VBM analysis?


Regards,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Group analysis tutorial

2014-07-10 Thread Qijing Yu
Thank you Doug and Louis!! was stuck in something else in the past few
days. I will try the new version and let you know if I still have problems
viewing the results.

Thanks again! Really appreciate your help!


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Louis Nicholas Vinke 
vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Qijing,
 Under the 'Freeview dev build' section on this wiki page you can download
 an updated version of freeview.

 http://freesurfer.net/fswiki/Download

 -Louis

 On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Qijing Yu wrote:

  Hi Doug,
 
  By new version, do you mean v5.3.0?
 
  Qijing
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  wrote:
 
Yea, that is actually a feature in the new version
 
 
On 07/02/2014 02:17 PM, Joshua S wrote:
 Hi all,
 I was following the group analysis tutorial when I got an
error when
 trying to view the uncorrected significance map with freeview.
I used
 the command freeview -f
 
 $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage/surf/lh.inflated:annot=aparc.annot:overlay=lh.gende
r_age.glmdir/lh-Avg-thickness-age-Cor/sig.mgh:overlay_threshold=4,5
 -viewport 3d. I removed the annot_outline=1, because it gave
an
 error. Sig.mgh would not load, and I would get the attached
image. I
 tried to manually add sig.mgh through add surface, but the
program
 immediatley closed, and I got the message in the attached
error.log.
 Text below.

 Thank you for any help,
 Josh
 Did not find any volume geometry information in the surface
 ???Tgreading colortable from annotation file...
 colortable with 36 entries read (originally
 
 /autofs/space/terrier_001/users/nicks/freesurfer/average/colortable_desikan
_killiany.txt)
 colortable with 36 entries read (originally
 
 /autofs/space/terrier_001/users/nicks/freesurfer/average/colortable_desikan
_killiany.txt)
 Did not find color table in track volume.
 [0]PETSC ERROR:

 
 
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation
Violation,
 probably memory access out of range
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or
-on_error_attach_debugger
 [0]PETSC ERROR: or see

 http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation/troubleshooting.html#Si
gnal[0]PETSC
 ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on linux or man libgmalloc
on Apple
 to find memory corruption errors
 [0]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes,
recompile, link,
 and run
 [0]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
 [0]PETSC ERROR: - Error Message
 
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Signal received!
 [0]PETSC ERROR:

 
 
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 2.3.3, Patch 13, Thu May
15
 17:29:26 CDT 2008 HG revision:
4466c6289a0922df26e20626fd4a0b4dd03c8124
 [0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/changes/index.html for recent
updates.
 [0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/faq.html for hints about trouble
shooting.
 [0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/index.html for manual pages.
 [0]PETSC ERROR:

 
 
 [0]PETSC ERROR: Unknown Name on a linux-gnu named
   farklemt.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu http://farklemt.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  by
   dc325 Wed Jul 2 11:35:56 2014
   [0]PETSC ERROR: Libraries linked from
 
 /autofs/space/lyon_006/pubsw/Linux2-2.3-x86_64/packages/petsc/2.3.3-p13/src
  /petsc-2.3.3-p13/lib/linux-gnu-c-opt
   [0]PETSC ERROR: Configure run at Tue Aug 10 15:01:59 2010
   [0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --with-debugging=no --with-cc=gcc
   --with-fc=g77 --download-f-blas-lapack=0 --download-mpich=1
   --with-mpi=1 --with-x=0 --with-gnu-copyright-code=0 --with-shared=0
   COPTFLAGS=-O3 CXXOPTFLAGS=-O3 FOPTFLAGS=-O3
   [0]PETSC ERROR:
  
  
   [0]PETSC ERROR: User provided function() line 0 in unknown directory
   unknown file
   [unset]: aborting job:
   application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 59) - process 0
  
  
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] combining aseg and seg_edited files for an atlas

2014-07-10 Thread N/A N/A
Thank you Douglas for the suggestion, I will try this method!

Alexarae


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:


 If you have matlab, it would be pretty easy to do it there, something like

 aseg = MRIread('aseg.mgz');
 seg = MRIread('seg_edited.mgz');

 % Your first seg inside cerebellum
 indseg1 = find(seg.vol == 1  (aseg.vol == 8 | aseg.vol == 47));
 % cerebellum cortex = 8 and 47, see $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

 aseg.vol(indseg1) = X1; % X1 = whatever index you want for your first
 segmentation, make it unique

 MRIwrite(aseg,'newaseg.mgz')



 On 07/09/2014 01:26 PM, N/A N/A wrote:
  Hi Freesurfer forum,
 
  I have never used the forum before but I am a long time user of
  Freesurfer and I am currently working on making a new atlas for the
  cerebellum. However I am having a problem loading my /seg_edited.mgz/
  files into the /rebuild_gca_atlas.csh/ script. So I renamed my
  /aseg.mgz/ file to /seg_edited/ and that worked but my resulting image
  is not great.
 
  I think it did not work with my original /seg_edited/ file because the
  atlas needed cortex data to complete the process and my original
  /seg_edited/ file did not have and my /aseg/ does.
 
  I would like to try and combine my /aseg/ file and my original
  /seg_edited/ files together but I realized that no one has apparently
  asked about doing that before on your forums. Is there anyway to
  combine those files?
 
  I would appreciate any advise on the matter!
 
  Thank you,
  Alexarae Bryon
 
  FIU student
 
 
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[Freesurfer] Question about LGI

2014-07-10 Thread pfotiad
Hi FS Community,

I was wondering whether LGI and Surface Area need to be corrected for
total Intracranial Volume.

Thanks in advance,
Panos
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Re: [Freesurfer] Question about LGI

2014-07-10 Thread Marie Schaer

Hi Panos,

It all depends on what your question is: whether the between-group difference 
in LGI and surface area is an absolute difference (then don't correct), or 
whether you want to see if it holds after correction. In any case, by geometric 
definition, the relationship between surface area, and thus LGI, and volume is 
governed by a power law, which means that if you linearly correct for 
intracranial volume, some of its effect will remain. 

Hope it helps,

Marie

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 Hi FS Community,
 
 I was wondering whether LGI and Surface Area need to be corrected for
 total Intracranial Volume.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Panos
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Re: [Freesurfer] Question about LGI

2014-07-10 Thread pfotiad
Hi Marie,

Thank you for your reply. I wanted to compare the LGI and Surface Area
between two cohorts, from which one has a significantly higher
intracranial volume than the other. I was wondering about the correction
because the results, especially in the case of SA, are the opposite before
and after correcting for total intraranial volume, and for LGI, it just
removed the significance of the association.

Thanks again,
Panos


 Hi Panos,

 It all depends on what your question is: whether the between-group
 difference in LGI and surface area is an absolute difference (then don't
 correct), or whether you want to see if it holds after correction. In any
 case, by geometric definition, the relationship between surface area, and
 thus LGI, and volume is governed by a power law, which means that if you
 linearly correct for intracranial volume, some of its effect will remain.

 Hope it helps,

 Marie

 On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:57 AM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  wrote:

 Hi FS Community,

 I was wondering whether LGI and Surface Area need to be corrected for
 total Intracranial Volume.

 Thanks in advance,
 Panos
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[Freesurfer] Understanding Hippocampal volume stats

2014-07-10 Thread Zia, Mohammad
Hi,

Freesurfer reported the following hippocampal volumes for a subject

volumeInVoxels:
right_CA1: 2652.3
right_CA2_3: 7245.11
right_CA4_DG: 3967.28
right_fimbria: 423.555
right_hippocampal_fissure: 191.897
right_presubiculum: 3598.99
right_subiculum: 4868.1
Right-Hippocampus: 3258.77


I have two questions about it

  1.  I don’t understand why the right_subiculum volume is more than the 
Right-Hippocampus volume.
  2.  Since the voxel size for the volumes is 0.5^mm, do we have to divide 
these volumes by 8 to convert them to voxel size 1^mm so that we can do direct 
comparison with other freesurfer stats volume (for example the volumes in 
rh.aparc.stats)?

Thanks
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[Freesurfer] Tracula

2014-07-10 Thread ebelleau
Hello,

I have a few questions about Tracula. I am very new to DTI, so I hope you can 
bare with me.

1.) I have been checking my registration at the prep stage. I am very new to 
this so it may be that I am not looking at the right files.

I looked at my eddy current corrected diffusion data (which I believe is in 
data.nii.gz in the dmri folder) with the no_dif_brain_mask.nii, and noticed 
that the no_dif_brain_mask does not cover very well for some of my subjects. 
Should I individually tailor the Fractional Intensity Threshold for BET mask 
extraction from low-b images at the prep stage?


2.) In general what files should I be checking at each phase (prep, bedpost, 
path)?

3.)How do you generate the whole-brain ROIS to guide the tractography (is the 
white matter mask that is generated at the prep phase involved)?

Thanks,

Emily
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Re: [Freesurfer] Question about LGI

2014-07-10 Thread Marie Schaer

Hi Panos,

Then I would say that it's interesting to understand why the results change 
depending on the correction. Here is a list of papers that may be relevant, but 
you'll certainly find many others:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8159014
http://pages.jh.edu/~kechen/pnas-brains.pdf
http://www.touchophthalmology.com/sites/www.touchoncology.com/files/migrated/articles_pdfs/schear.pdf

Best,

Marie


On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:50 AM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 Hi Marie,
 
 Thank you for your reply. I wanted to compare the LGI and Surface Area
 between two cohorts, from which one has a significantly higher
 intracranial volume than the other. I was wondering about the correction
 because the results, especially in the case of SA, are the opposite before
 and after correcting for total intraranial volume, and for LGI, it just
 removed the significance of the association.
 
 Thanks again,
 Panos
 
 
 Hi Panos,
 
 It all depends on what your question is: whether the between-group
 difference in LGI and surface area is an absolute difference (then don't
 correct), or whether you want to see if it holds after correction. In any
 case, by geometric definition, the relationship between surface area, and
 thus LGI, and volume is governed by a power law, which means that if you
 linearly correct for intracranial volume, some of its effect will remain.
 
 Hope it helps,
 
 Marie
 
 On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:57 AM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:
 
 Hi FS Community,
 
 I was wondering whether LGI and Surface Area need to be corrected for
 total Intracranial Volume.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Panos
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Re: [Freesurfer] Question about LGI

2014-07-10 Thread Douglas N Greve

For surface area, you should correct with the ICV (note you should use 
ICV and not something like ICV^(2/3))
doug


On 07/10/2014 04:52 PM, Marie Schaer wrote:
 Hi Panos,

 Then I would say that it's interesting to understand why the results change 
 depending on the correction. Here is a list of papers that may be relevant, 
 but you'll certainly find many others:
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8159014
 http://pages.jh.edu/~kechen/pnas-brains.pdf
 http://www.touchophthalmology.com/sites/www.touchoncology.com/files/migrated/articles_pdfs/schear.pdf

 Best,

 Marie


 On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:50 AM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   wrote:

 Hi Marie,

 Thank you for your reply. I wanted to compare the LGI and Surface Area
 between two cohorts, from which one has a significantly higher
 intracranial volume than the other. I was wondering about the correction
 because the results, especially in the case of SA, are the opposite before
 and after correcting for total intraranial volume, and for LGI, it just
 removed the significance of the association.

 Thanks again,
 Panos

 Hi Panos,

 It all depends on what your question is: whether the between-group
 difference in LGI and surface area is an absolute difference (then don't
 correct), or whether you want to see if it holds after correction. In any
 case, by geometric definition, the relationship between surface area, and
 thus LGI, and volume is governed by a power law, which means that if you
 linearly correct for intracranial volume, some of its effect will remain.

 Hope it helps,

 Marie

 On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:57 AM, pfot...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 Hi FS Community,

 I was wondering whether LGI and Surface Area need to be corrected for
 total Intracranial Volume.

 Thanks in advance,
 Panos
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[Freesurfer] ACPC alignment in freeview?

2014-07-10 Thread Tracy Riggins
Hello Freesurfer experts:
I am wondering if I can do ACPC alignment in freeview.  Perhaps using Tools 
Transform volume  and then rotating using landmarks.
Is this indeed possible? If so, can anyone provide guidance on the 3 landmarks 
to select (would it be anterior commissure superior  posterior edges  
posterior commissure) and how to map these landmarks to coordinate axis vectors?
I would appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Tracy Riggins
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Re: [Freesurfer] Convert label file to STL file‏

2014-07-10 Thread Mat yuki
Hi Matt,

Thank you for your reply. It is impossible to convert label file to stl file, 
is it wright?
If it was so, do you know how to get it? I want to get stl files which divided 
into each percellation, if its possible.

Thanks in advance,

Yuki.

Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:25:19 -0500
From: m...@ma-tea.com
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Convert label file to STL file‏

It probably thinks the STL file is just a mesh without coloring.
Peace,
Matt.
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Date:  Thursday, July 10, 2014 at 7:19 AM
To:  freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject:  [Freesurfer] Convert label file to STL file‏

Dear Freesurfer Experts,
 
I'm trying to convert .label file to .stl file.
In more detail of my purpose, I want to get separate stl files of whole brain. 
Now, I want to make stl files of label files which made from 
?h.aparc.a2009s.annot.
 
First, I tried to convert lh.pial to lh.pial.stl, I've got it (this was just 
check how mris_convert works).
Second, I copied lh. white file from surf dir into label dir. Then, I runed 
next command:
 
cd subjid/label
mris_convert --label lh.bankssts.label bankssts lh.white lh.bankssts.label.stl
 
And got the error message: ERROR: unknown file annot file type specified for 
output: lh.bankssts.label.stl
 
Do you know what could have gone wrong? 

Thank you,
Yuki. 
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