Re: [Freesurfer] bad acquisition and noise problem.

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Fischl
what is the bandwidth? The typical way to fix it is to increase the 
bandwidth. You can probably recover some of the SNR you will lose by 
reducing your flip angle, which is pretty far from the Ernst angle.
Also, minimize your TE (if 4ms is not already the min)
cheers
Bruce


On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, youngmin huh wrote:

 Hi,
 3D SPGR sequences were used. (TR=22, TE=4, thickness=1.4, FOV=240*240,
 FA=40)
 If the artifacts are due to B0 distortion, I wonder how I can fix it.
 
 Thanks,
 Youngmin Huh
 
 
 
 2012/11/12 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Can you give us the acquisition details? I suspect this is not
   noise, but rather B0 distortion.
   what is the acquisition? And what bandwidth?
 

   On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:53 AM, youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com
   wrote:

Dear all,
   
I'm working with some images, and they have so much noises on
   temporal areas.
I just ran recon2, but not sure if they'll be segmented
   properly.
Does anyone have a recommendation for dealing with it?
I wonder if there is any flag or option for this occasion.
I would appreciate any comments or help.
I attached an example.
   
Thanks,
   
Youngmin Huh
  temporal_001.jpg
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] bad acquisition and noise problem.

2012-11-13 Thread youngmin huh
I'm not engaged in obtaining images, so I don't have any details about the
images.
I wonder the method which you commented can be applied to images I already
earned.
If it's not, is there any way to recover SNR after image scanning?

Thanks,

Youngmin Huh.


2012/11/13 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 what is the bandwidth? The typical way to fix it is to increase the
 bandwidth. You can probably recover some of the SNR you will lose by
 reducing your flip angle, which is pretty far from the Ernst angle.
 Also, minimize your TE (if 4ms is not already the min)
 cheers
 Bruce



 On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, youngmin huh wrote:

  Hi,
 3D SPGR sequences were used. (TR=22, TE=4, thickness=1.4, FOV=240*240,
 FA=40)
 If the artifacts are due to B0 distortion, I wonder how I can fix it.

 Thanks,
 Youngmin Huh



 2012/11/12 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Can you give us the acquisition details? I suspect this is not
   noise, but rather B0 distortion.
   what is the acquisition? And what bandwidth?


   On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:53 AM, youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com
   wrote:

Dear all,
   
I'm working with some images, and they have so much noises on
   temporal areas.
I just ran recon2, but not sure if they'll be segmented
   properly.
Does anyone have a recommendation for dealing with it?
I wonder if there is any flag or option for this occasion.
I would appreciate any comments or help.
I attached an example.
   
Thanks,
   
Youngmin Huh
  temporal_001.jpg


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Re: [Freesurfer] bad acquisition and noise problem.

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Fischl
it's not a question of SNR, the problem appears to me to be that the B0 
distortions are so bad that a bunch of the temporal lobe is piled up on top 
of itself. There's no way to fix that posthoc. If you upload the full 
volume I'm happy to take a look


On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, youngmin huh wrote:


I'm not engaged in obtaining images, so I don't have any details about the
images.I wonder the method which you commented can be applied to images I
already earned.
If it's not, is there any way to recover SNR after image scanning?

Thanks,

Youngmin Huh.


2012/11/13 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  what is the bandwidth? The typical way to fix it is to increase
  the bandwidth. You can probably recover some of the SNR you will
  lose by reducing your flip angle, which is pretty far from the
  Ernst angle.
  Also, minimize your TE (if 4ms is not already the min)
  cheers
  Bruce


  On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, youngmin huh wrote:

Hi,
3D SPGR sequences were used. (TR=22, TE=4,
thickness=1.4, FOV=240*240,
FA=40)
If the artifacts are due to B0 distortion, I wonder
how I can fix it.

Thanks,
Youngmin Huh



2012/11/12 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
      Can you give us the acquisition details? I
suspect this is not
      noise, but rather B0 distortion.
      what is the acquisition? And what bandwidth?


      On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:53 AM, youngmin huh
ymin1...@gmail.com
      wrote:

       Dear all,
      
       I'm working with some images, and they have
so much noises on
      temporal areas.
       I just ran recon2, but not sure if they'll
be segmented
      properly.
       Does anyone have a recommendation for
dealing with it?
       I wonder if there is any flag or option for
this occasion.
       I would appreciate any comments or help.
       I attached an example.
      
       Thanks,
      
       Youngmin Huh
 temporal_001.jpg


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Re: [Freesurfer] bad acquisition and noise problem.

2012-11-12 Thread youngmin huh
Hi,
3D SPGR sequences were used. (TR=22, TE=4, thickness=1.4, FOV=240*240,
FA=40)
If the artifacts are due to B0 distortion, I wonder how I can fix it.

Thanks,
Youngmin Huh



2012/11/12 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 Can you give us the acquisition details? I suspect this is not noise, but
 rather B0 distortion.
 what is the acquisition? And what bandwidth?


 On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:53 AM, youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  I'm working with some images, and they have so much noises on temporal
 areas.
  I just ran recon2, but not sure if they'll be segmented properly.
  Does anyone have a recommendation for dealing with it?
  I wonder if there is any flag or option for this occasion.
  I would appreciate any comments or help.
  I attached an example.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Youngmin Huh
  temporal_001.jpg


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Re: [Freesurfer] bad acquisition and noise problem.

2012-11-12 Thread Matt Glasser
Are you using a 32-channel coil?  It looks like B1- receive field
inhomogeneity to me.

Peace,

Matt.

From:  youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com
Date:  Monday, November 12, 2012 10:22 PM
To:  Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu,
freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject:  Re: [Freesurfer] bad acquisition and noise problem.

Hi,
3D SPGR sequences were used. (TR=22, TE=4, thickness=1.4, FOV=240*240,
FA=40)
If the artifacts are due to B0 distortion, I wonder how I can fix it.

Thanks,
Youngmin Huh



2012/11/12 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Can you give us the acquisition details? I suspect this is not noise, but
 rather B0 distortion.
 what is the acquisition? And what bandwidth?
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:53 AM, youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear all,
 
  I'm working with some images, and they have so much noises on temporal
 areas.
  I just ran recon2, but not sure if they'll be segmented properly.
  Does anyone have a recommendation for dealing with it?
  I wonder if there is any flag or option for this occasion.
  I would appreciate any comments or help.
  I attached an example.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Youngmin Huh
  temporal_001.jpg
 
 
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