Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation

2020-11-29 Thread Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
Are you talking about outliers across subject? Or across region? I would just take the FS-supplied value instead of averaging the regions. On 11/19/2020 2:14 AM, Stephanie K wrote: External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Thanks for the prompt reply. It is my understanding that

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation {Disarmed}

2020-11-20 Thread Fischl, Bruce
with nmovie_qt) Cheers Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu On Behalf Of Stephanie K Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:25 AM To: Freesurfer support list Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation {Disarmed} External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, No, I don’t think

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation {Disarmed}

2020-11-20 Thread Stephanie K
t; Cheers > > Bruce > > > > *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu < > freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> *On Behalf Of *Stephanie K > *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2020 4:19 PM > *To:* Freesurfer support list > *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thicknes

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation {Disarmed}

2020-11-19 Thread Fischl, Bruce
, 2020 4:19 PM To: Freesurfer support list Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation {Disarmed} External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Is it also necessary to remove outliers (eg. 3 SD from the mean) for Freesurfer structural measures of MRI images that have been visually

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation {Disarmed}

2020-11-19 Thread Stephanie K
mr.mgh.harvard.edu> *On Behalf Of *Stephanie K > *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2020 2:14 AM > *To:* freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation > > > > *External Email - Use Caution* > > Hi Bruce, > &g

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation

2020-11-19 Thread Fischl, Bruce
Hi Stephanie I think that is always a good idea, unless for some reason it isn’t possible Cheers Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu On Behalf Of Stephanie K Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 2:14 AM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation

2020-11-18 Thread Stephanie K
External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Thanks for the prompt reply. It is my understanding that l_thickness, r_thickness and estimated intracranial volume are accurately measured. Would I still need to identify and remove outliers if visual inspection of the images has not been

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation

2020-11-18 Thread Fischl, Bruce
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation External Email - Use Caution Hi, I want to estimate the mean cortical thickness. For this I have summed the thickness across all 34 regions mapped to the Desikan-Killiany atlas. However, I also have

[Freesurfer] Mean thickness estimation

2020-11-18 Thread Stephanie K
External Email - Use Caution Hi, I want to estimate the mean cortical thickness. For this I have summed the thickness across all 34 regions mapped to the Desikan-Killiany atlas. However, I also have the average mean thickness of left and right hemispheres (direct output variables

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean thickness values from sig.mgh

2020-01-24 Thread Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
you will have to create a binary mask from the sig map by thresholding at a given level, eg, mri_binarize --i sig.mgh --min 2 --o sig.bin2.mgh Then run mri_segstats --i y.mgh --seg sig.bin2.mgh --id 1 --avgwf y.bin2.dat where y.mgh is the --y input to mri_glmfit --id 1 means to take the

[Freesurfer] Mean thickness values from sig.mgh

2020-01-22 Thread Amrita Bedi
External Email - Use Caution Hello Freesurfer developers, I wanted to extract mean thickness values of all participants from the uncorrected significance maps obtained from mri glmfit for structural data instead of extracting it from the corrected maps from glmfit sim. Is there a

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness

2016-03-07 Thread Douglas N Greve
arvard.edu > [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Namens Bruce Fischl > Verzonden: zondag 6 maart 2016 16:14 > Aan: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > Onderwerp: Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness > > Hi Caroline > > how did you generate

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness

2016-03-06 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Caroline how did you generate the Gnumeric file? And what operating system/hardware are you using? Also, please send us the recon-all.log for one of the subjects that you see this happening cheers Bruce On Fri, 4 Mar 2016, Caroline Beelen wrote: Dear Freesurfer team,   Forgive me

[Freesurfer] mean thickness

2016-03-04 Thread Caroline Beelen
Dear Freesurfer team, Forgive me if this is a foolish question... I wanted to overlook cortical thickness, area and volume measures in Gnumeric file after recon-all (checking edits made). However, for several subjects I noticed that the values of mean thickness (final column) were calculated

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean Thickness for each hemisphere from ?.aparc.stats

2014-05-21 Thread amirhossein manzouri
Thanks Doug, I used the first link and works perfectly now! Best regards, Amirhossein Manzouri On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote: I just ran it, and it works fine. It may be that I need to give you more libraries. Start with this one

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean Thickness for each hemisphere from ?.aparc.stats

2014-05-20 Thread amirhossein manzouri
Dear Doug, Kindly find attached a sample of my lh.aparc.stats file! Best regards, Amirhossein Manzouri On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote: Can you send me your lh.aparc.stats file? doug On 05/14/2014 01:41 PM, amirhossein manzouri wrote:

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean Thickness for each hemisphere from ?.aparc.stats

2014-05-19 Thread Douglas N Greve
Can you send me your lh.aparc.stats file? doug On 05/14/2014 01:41 PM, amirhossein manzouri wrote: Yes! On May 14, 2014 7:16 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Is the mean thickness in the ?h.aparc.stats file? Something like #

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean Thickness for each hemisphere from ?.aparc.stats

2014-05-14 Thread Douglas N Greve
Is the mean thickness in the ?h.aparc.stats file? Something like # Measure Cortex, MeanThickness, Mean Thickness, 2.27227, mm On 05/13/2014 05:18 PM, amirhossein manzouri wrote: Hi, The same result! the last is insula ! Best regards, Amirhossein Manzouri On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:05

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean Thickness for each hemisphere from ?.aparc.stats

2014-05-14 Thread amirhossein manzouri
Yes! On May 14, 2014 7:16 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Is the mean thickness in the ?h.aparc.stats file? Something like # Measure Cortex, MeanThickness, Mean Thickness, 2.27227, mm On 05/13/2014 05:18 PM, amirhossein manzouri wrote: Hi, The same result! the last

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean Thickness for each hemisphere from ?.aparc.stats

2014-05-13 Thread amirhossein manzouri
Hi, The same result! the last is insula ! Best regards, Amirhossein Manzouri On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote: Try this version ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/ greve/aparcstats2table On 05/12/2014 03:41 AM,

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean Thickness for each hemisphere from ?.aparc.stats

2014-05-12 Thread amirhossein manzouri
Hi again, I think I missed my question, How can I get the Mean Thickness of each hemisphere for several subjects using the aparcstats2table command? On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 4:28 PM, amirhossein manzouri a.h.manzo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Doug, I have read this post(

Re: [Freesurfer] Mean Thickness for each hemisphere from ?.aparc.stats

2014-05-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Try this version ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/aparcstats2table On 05/12/2014 03:41 AM, amirhossein manzouri wrote: Hi again, I think I missed my question, How can I get the Mean Thickness of each hemisphere for several subjects using the aparcstats2table

[Freesurfer] Mean Thickness for each hemisphere from ?.aparc.stats

2014-05-09 Thread amirhossein manzouri
Dear Doug, I have read this post( https://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg25218.html) regarding extracting Mean Cth of each hemisphere and I just get insula as the last and totally 34 numbers, I use aparcstats2table --hemi lh --subjects bert -m thickness --tablefile

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness over hemisphere in stats file

2013-08-12 Thread Bruce Fischl
: [Freesurfer] mean thickness over hemisphere in stats file Hi Ines I think mris_anatomical_thickness is your best bet. You probably want to specify the ?h.cortex.label file with the -l flag so that it ignores non-cortical regions cheers Bruce On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Mürner-Lavanchy, Ines wrote: Dear

[Freesurfer] mean thickness over hemisphere in stats file

2013-08-09 Thread Mürner-Lavanchy , Ines
Dear experts, please excuse my question, I'm a beginner. I really searched for an answer in the archive, but I couldn't find out what I was doing wrong. I would like to write the mean cortical thickness of a hemisphere in the stats file. I read one can do that by using -m thickness. Where in

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness over hemisphere in stats file

2013-08-09 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Ines I think mris_anatomical_thickness is your best bet. You probably want to specify the ?h.cortex.label file with the -l flag so that it ignores non-cortical regions cheers Bruce On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Mürner-Lavanchy, Ines wrote: Dear experts, please excuse my question, I'm a

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness over hemisphere in stats file

2013-08-09 Thread Douglas N Greve
you can also use mri_segstats with the --slabel option (spec ?h.cortex.label) and the thickness as the input On 08/09/2013 09:36 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote: Hi Ines I think mris_anatomical_thickness is your best bet. You probably want to specify the ?h.cortex.label file with the -l flag so

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness covariate, mean area covariate, mri_anatomical_stats for multiple subjects

2013-03-12 Thread Laura M. Tully
. Tully tully.la...@googlemail.com Date: Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:58 PM To: Anderson M. Winkler wink...@fmrib.ox.ac.uk Cc: free freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness covariate, mean area covariate, mri_anatomical_stats for multiple subjects Hi Anderson

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness covariate, mean area covariate, mri_anatomical_stats for multiple subjects

2013-03-11 Thread Michael Harms
...@fmrib.ox.ac.uk Cc: free freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness covariate, mean area covariate, mri_anatomical_stats for multiple subjects Hi Anderson, Thanks, that reference is particularly helpful. Re: the usage of the white versus pial area question - I believe

[Freesurfer] mean thickness covariate, mean area covariate, mri_anatomical_stats for multiple subjects

2013-03-09 Thread Laura M. Tully
Hello freesurfers, It appears that prior discussions on the listserv have recommended using mean cortical thickness (rather than ICV) as a covariate for thickness analyses (predominantly recommended by Michael Harms). I have three questions about this: 1. Is there a paper that I could cite

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness covariate, mean area covariate, mri_anatomical_stats for multiple subjects

2013-03-09 Thread Anderson M. Winkler
Hi Laura, 1. Is there a paper that I could cite that recommends using mean cortical thickness rather than ICV? If it helps, we used cortical thickness and area as covariate for the respective analysis of regional thickness and area. Brain volume, which is more closely related to ICV,

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness covariate, mean area covariate, mri_anatomical_stats for multiple subjects

2013-03-09 Thread Laura M. Tully
Hi Anderson, Thanks, that reference is particularly helpful. Re: the usage of the white versus pial area question - I believe that the default area calculation in freesurfer is the white surface area, so unless one specifies the pial in calculations, the standard surface area output for surface

Re: [Freesurfer] mean thickness covariate, mean area covariate, mri_anatomical_stats for multiple subjects

2013-03-09 Thread Anderson M. Winkler
Hi Laura, I think yes, sounds right. Maybe run both ways and see if the results agree or differ. All the best, Anderson 2013/3/9 Laura M. Tully tully.la...@googlemail.com Hi Anderson, Thanks, that reference is particularly helpful. Re: the usage of the white versus pial area question - I

[Freesurfer] mean thickness difference maps

2007-09-23 Thread Kirk, Gregory
Hi All, I wanted to clarify a point. Publications of cortical thickness differences are usually produced with maps called mean thickness difference maps. I dug through the mail archive but did not find an answer (Q1) These statistical parametric maps are I assume produced by computing a