Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

2010-11-08 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Shahin

you'll need a monkey atlas based on manually labeled monkey folding 
patterns. we don't have one, but it's possible that someone else on the 
list does (it would be a lot easier to do for monkey than it was for human 
as the folds are so much simpler)


cheers
Bruce

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:


Hi Freesurfers,

   Anybody knows how can I make lh and rh.annotation.aparc files for a monkey? I
need them initiate an brain averaging process.
Shahin Nasr


PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
Harvard Medical School


___
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
dispose of the e-mail.


Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

2010-11-08 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Shahin

have you run spherical registration? If so, to what target? I don't think 
the monkey-to-human atlas aligment is that robust, so you would need a 
monkey geometry atlas (which is a lot easier to build as you don't need to 
do manual labeling for it). Probably someone on list has one?


Bruce

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:


Thanks Bruce,

   To avoid this problem, is there anyway to run make_average_subject without
having lh and rh.aparc.annot files?
 Shahin Nasr


PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
Harvard Medical School





From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Cc: Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 12:10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

Hi Shahin

you'll need a monkey atlas based on manually labeled monkey folding
patterns. we don't have one, but it's possible that someone else on the
list does (it would be a lot easier to do for monkey than it was for human
as the folds are so much simpler)

cheers
Bruce

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:


Hi Freesurfers,

   Anybody knows how can I make lh and rh.annotation.aparc files for a monkey?
I
need them initiate an brain averaging process.
Shahin Nasr


PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
Harvard Medical School






The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
dispose of the e-mail.



___
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
dispose of the e-mail.


Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

2010-11-08 Thread Shahin
Thanks Bruce,

   To avoid this problem, is there anyway to run make_average_subject without 
having lh and rh.aparc.annot files?
 Shahin Nasr 


PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
Harvard Medical School 





From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Cc: Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 12:10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

Hi Shahin

you'll need a monkey atlas based on manually labeled monkey folding 
patterns. we don't have one, but it's possible that someone else on the 
list does (it would be a lot easier to do for monkey than it was for human 
as the folds are so much simpler)

cheers
Bruce

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:

 Hi Freesurfers,

    Anybody knows how can I make lh and rh.annotation.aparc files for a 
 monkey? 
I
 need them initiate an brain averaging process.
 Shahin Nasr


 PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
 Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
 Harvard Medical School





The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
dispose of the e-mail.



  ___
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
dispose of the e-mail.


Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

2010-11-08 Thread Shahin
    Yes, I have made a template on the basis of many monkeys 
(mris_make_template) and then I have done spherical registeration for each 
individual monkey (to this template) by using mris_register. Now it is the 
final 
step and I have to run the make_average_subject but it generates an error 
saying 
that I don't have a lh and rh.aparc.annot files.

    Apparently very old versions of freesurfer (version 3) didnt need these 
files. Am I right? Do you suggest to use old versions?
 Shahin Nasr 


PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
Harvard Medical School 





From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Cc: Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 12:33:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

Hi Shahin

have you run spherical registration? If so, to what target? I don't think 
the monkey-to-human atlas aligment is that robust, so you would need a 
monkey geometry atlas (which is a lot easier to build as you don't need to 
do manual labeling for it). Probably someone on list has one?

Bruce

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:

 Thanks Bruce,

    To avoid this problem, is there anyway to run make_average_subject without
 having lh and rh.aparc.annot files?
  Shahin Nasr


 PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
 Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
 Harvard Medical School




 
 From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Cc: Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 12:10:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

 Hi Shahin

 you'll need a monkey atlas based on manually labeled monkey folding
 patterns. we don't have one, but it's possible that someone else on the
 list does (it would be a lot easier to do for monkey than it was for human
 as the folds are so much simpler)

 cheers
 Bruce

 On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:

 Hi Freesurfers,

    Anybody knows how can I make lh and rh.annotation.aparc files for a 
monkey?
 I
 need them initiate an brain averaging process.
 Shahin Nasr


 PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
 Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
 Harvard Medical School





 The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
 addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
 contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine 
at
 http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in 
error
 but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and 
properly
 dispose of the e-mail.





___
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
dispose of the e-mail.


Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

2010-11-08 Thread Douglas N Greve
It is needed in make_average_surface. I've created a new version that 
does not use the aparc (thought I have not tested it). You can get it 
from here:

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/make_average_surface.no-aparc

Make a backup of your current version of make_average_surface and then 
copy this one over it

douig



Shahin wrote:
 Yes, I have made a template on the basis of many monkeys 
 (mris_make_template) and then I have done spherical registeration for 
 each individual monkey (to this template) by using mris_register. Now 
 it is the final step and I have to run the make_average_subject but it 
 generates an error saying that I don't have a lh and rh.aparc.annot files.
  
 Apparently very old versions of freesurfer (version 3) didnt need 
 these files. Am I right? Do you suggest to use old versions?
  
 Shahin Nasr

 PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
 Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
 Harvard Medical School


 
 *From:* Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *To:* Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *Cc:* Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *Sent:* Mon, November 8, 2010 12:33:03 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

 Hi Shahin

 have you run spherical registration? If so, to what target? I don't think
 the monkey-to-human atlas aligment is that robust, so you would need a
 monkey geometry atlas (which is a lot easier to build as you don't 
 need to
 do manual labeling for it). Probably someone on list has one?

 Bruce

 On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:

  Thanks Bruce,
 
 To avoid this problem, is there anyway to run 
 make_average_subject without
  having lh and rh.aparc.annot files?
   Shahin Nasr
 
 
  PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
  Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
  Harvard Medical School
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Cc: Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 12:10:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?
 
  Hi Shahin
 
  you'll need a monkey atlas based on manually labeled monkey folding
  patterns. we don't have one, but it's possible that someone else on the
  list does (it would be a lot easier to do for monkey than it was for 
 human
  as the folds are so much simpler)
 
  cheers
  Bruce
 
  On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:
 
  Hi Freesurfers,
 
 Anybody knows how can I make lh and rh.annotation.aparc files 
 for a monkey?
  I
  need them initiate an brain averaging process.
  Shahin Nasr
 
 
  PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
  Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
  Harvard Medical School
 
 
 
 
 
  The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to 
 whom it is
  addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and 
 the e-mail
  contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance 
 HelpLine at
  http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to 
 you in error
  but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender 
 and properly
  dispose of the e-mail.
 
 
 
 

 

 ___
 Freesurfer mailing list
 Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer

-- 
Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
MGH-NMR Center
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Phone Number: 617-724-2358 
Fax: 617-726-7422

Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html

___
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

2010-11-08 Thread Douglas N Greve
You'll probably have to do it by hand with tkregister2.  Someone on the 
list may have solved this problem before.

doug

Shahin wrote:
 Ok now I faced another problem saying that I dont have talairach.xfm 
 for monkeys. Would you tell me how can I generate it for monkeys?
  
 Shahin Nasr

 PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
 Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
 Harvard Medical School


 
 *From:* Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *To:* Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *Cc:* Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *Sent:* Mon, November 8, 2010 12:55:37 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

 It is needed in make_average_surface. I've created a new version that
 does not use the aparc (thought I have not tested it). You can get it
 from here:

 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/make_average_surface.no-aparc

 Make a backup of your current version of make_average_surface and then
 copy this one over it

 douig



 Shahin wrote:
 Yes, I have made a template on the basis of many monkeys
  (mris_make_template) and then I have done spherical registeration for
  each individual monkey (to this template) by using mris_register. Now
  it is the final step and I have to run the make_average_subject but it
  generates an error saying that I don't have a lh and rh.aparc.annot 
 files.
  
 Apparently very old versions of freesurfer (version 3) didnt need
  these files. Am I right? Do you suggest to use old versions?
  
  Shahin Nasr
 
  PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
  Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
  Harvard Medical School
 
 
  
  *From:* Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  *To:* Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  *Cc:* Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  *Sent:* Mon, November 8, 2010 12:33:03 PM
  *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?
 
  Hi Shahin
 
  have you run spherical registration? If so, to what target? I don't 
 think
  the monkey-to-human atlas aligment is that robust, so you would need a
  monkey geometry atlas (which is a lot easier to build as you don't
  need to
  do manual labeling for it). Probably someone on list has one?
 
  Bruce
 
  On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:
 
   Thanks Bruce,
  
  To avoid this problem, is there anyway to run
  make_average_subject without
   having lh and rh.aparc.annot files?
Shahin Nasr
  
  
   PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
   Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
   Harvard Medical School
  
  
  
  
   
   From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   To: Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Cc: Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 12:10:38 PM
   Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?
  
   Hi Shahin
  
   you'll need a monkey atlas based on manually labeled monkey folding
   patterns. we don't have one, but it's possible that someone else 
 on the
   list does (it would be a lot easier to do for monkey than it was for
  human
   as the folds are so much simpler)
  
   cheers
   Bruce
  
   On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:
  
   Hi Freesurfers,
  
  Anybody knows how can I make lh and rh.annotation.aparc files
  for a monkey?
   I
   need them initiate an brain averaging process.
   Shahin Nasr
  
  
   PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
   Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
   Harvard Medical School
  
  
  
  
  
   The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to
  whom it is
   addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and
  the e-mail
   contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance
  HelpLine at
   http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to
  you in error
   but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender
  and properly
   dispose of the e-mail.
  
  
  
  
 
  
 
  ___
  Freesurfer mailing list
  Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer

 -- 
 Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
 MGH-NMR Center
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Phone Number: 617-724-2358
 Fax: 617-726-7422

 Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting 
 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

2010-11-08 Thread Shahin
Ok now I faced another problem saying that I dont have talairach.xfm for 
monkeys. Would you tell me how can I generate it for monkeys?
 Shahin Nasr 


PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
Harvard Medical School 





From: Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Cc: Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 12:55:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

It is needed in make_average_surface. I've created a new version that 
does not use the aparc (thought I have not tested it). You can get it 
from here:

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/make_average_surface.no-aparc


Make a backup of your current version of make_average_surface and then 
copy this one over it

douig



Shahin wrote:
    Yes, I have made a template on the basis of many monkeys 
 (mris_make_template) and then I have done spherical registeration for 
 each individual monkey (to this template) by using mris_register. Now 
 it is the final step and I have to run the make_average_subject but it 
 generates an error saying that I don't have a lh and rh.aparc.annot files.
  
    Apparently very old versions of freesurfer (version 3) didnt need 
 these files. Am I right? Do you suggest to use old versions?
  
 Shahin Nasr

 PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
 Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
 Harvard Medical School


 
 *From:* Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *To:* Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *Cc:* Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 *Sent:* Mon, November 8, 2010 12:33:03 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?

 Hi Shahin

 have you run spherical registration? If so, to what target? I don't think
 the monkey-to-human atlas aligment is that robust, so you would need a
 monkey geometry atlas (which is a lot easier to build as you don't 
 need to
 do manual labeling for it). Probably someone on list has one?

 Bruce

 On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:

  Thanks Bruce,
 
     To avoid this problem, is there anyway to run 
 make_average_subject without
  having lh and rh.aparc.annot files?
   Shahin Nasr
 
 
  PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
  Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
  Harvard Medical School
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: Shahin sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Cc: Freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 12:10:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to generate aparc.annotion files?
 
  Hi Shahin
 
  you'll need a monkey atlas based on manually labeled monkey folding
  patterns. we don't have one, but it's possible that someone else on the
  list does (it would be a lot easier to do for monkey than it was for 
 human
  as the folds are so much simpler)
 
  cheers
  Bruce
 
  On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Shahin wrote:
 
  Hi Freesurfers,
 
     Anybody knows how can I make lh and rh.annotation.aparc files 
 for a monkey?
  I
  need them initiate an brain averaging process.
  Shahin Nasr
 
 
  PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
  Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
  Harvard Medical School
 
 
 
 
 
  The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to 
 whom it is
  addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and 
 the e-mail
  contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance 
 HelpLine at
  http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to 
 you in error
  but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender 
 and properly
  dispose of the e-mail.
 
 
 
 

 

 ___
 Freesurfer mailing list
 Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer

-- 
Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
MGH-NMR Center
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Phone Number: 617-724-2358 
Fax: 617-726-7422

Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html

___
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer



  ___
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain