Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 vs MELPe: high bitrates and sound quality

2020-01-14 Thread David Rowe
Hi, Re 700C being equivalent to all other rates - that's a curious result - all other reports (and the samples we have) show the quality improving with bit rate. 700C tends to overlap 1300 in quality (better for some samples, worse for others). 2400 and 3200 use much faster frame rates. I can't

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 vs MELPe: high bitrates and sound quality

2020-01-13 Thread Maxim Karpov
11.01.2020, 23:04, "David Rowe" : > 2/ With noisy speech the MELP samples appear to have removed the > interfering noise - the noise is suppressed in the output samples, and > not faithfully reproduced. This suggests the MELP implementation you > have used also has a pre-processing step to remove

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 vs MELPe: high bitrates and sound quality

2020-01-11 Thread Adrian Musceac
Hi Maks Karpov, I observed similar quality degradation on some of my voice samples, and sent pathological samples to David for analysis. What I can say for sure is language has nothing to do at all. I fixed my problems by lowering audio input levels, filtering of input to take out very low

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 vs MELPe: high bitrates and sound quality

2020-01-11 Thread Al Beard
Hi [UTF-8?]Макс [UTF-8?]Карпов (Sorry no name in plain text) I think we are comparing apples to oranges. As I see it, Codec2 voice compression is about determining what a human voice is doing and digitising that. And, to as low a data bitrate as practical in carrying good

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 vs MELPe: high bitrates and sound quality

2020-01-11 Thread David Rowe
Hi Макс, Nice work on your tests! OK so this is what I hear: 1/ On the noise free English samples, codec 2 at 1200/2400 is slightly worse than MELP at the same rates. This is consistent with other tests (e.g. academic papers using the two codecs as references). 2/ With noisy speech the MELP

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 vs MELPe: high bitrates and sound quality

2020-01-11 Thread Макс Карпов
Sorry for sending HTML message, I didn't expect it to mess up the archive. Plaintext copy of previous message follows: -- Hello! Recently I had tested Codec2 on audio samples on both English and Russian languages, using MELPe as a reference. Moreover, I used three noise modes: no noise

[Freetel-codec2] Codec2 vs MELPe: high bitrates and sound quality

2020-01-11 Thread Макс Карпов
Hello! Recently I had tested Codec2 on audio samples on both English and Russian languages, using MELPe as a reference. Moreover, I used three noise modes: no noise at all, gaussian noise and voice noise (e.g. when you are talking in a crowded room). As I don't have a source code for MELPe 600, I