Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-26 Thread Mel Whitten
Adrian… interesting.. thanks for tip… will look into that for DATV www.slatsatn.net <http://www.slatsatn.net> Mel K0PFX From: Adrian Musceac Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 9:48 AM To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 p

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-26 Thread Adrian Musceac
> >From: Adrian Musceac >Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 6:42 AM >To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project > > > >Al, > >That's exactly what my FreeDV application does except >1. It uses a general purpose vo

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-26 Thread Mel Whitten
Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Al, That's exactly what my FreeDV application does except 1. It uses a general purpose voip protocol (Mumble) which can be extended with arbitrary codecs including Codec2 2. It doesn't use the cloud. It uses a simple TCP server which

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-26 Thread Adrian Musceac
incorporate routing data to >indicate what to repeat/rebroadcast and where. >>   >> Just a thought for what [UTF-8?]it’s worth. >>   >> Comments anyone? >> >>   >> Regards >>   >>   >> Dave [UTF-8?]– VK2DWG >>   >> >

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-26 Thread David Grove
ct: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Hi David VK2DWG, Consider a HF "hot spot". Can receive say mode 700D which uses the mode 700C codec. adds the hot-spot callsign and sends to the cloud talk group HF1 and listeners treat it like any other talk group except, in his

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-26 Thread Al Beard via Freetel-codec2
for what [UTF-8?]it’s worth. >   > Comments anyone? > >   > Regards >   >   > Dave [UTF-8?]– VK2DWG >   > > From: walt...@k5wh.net > Sent: Monday, 26 October 2020 12:47 > To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-26 Thread Al Beard via Freetel-codec2
;   > > From: Al Beard via Freetel-codec2 > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 3:27 PM > To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: Al Beard > Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project >   > Hi all, > >   > > What about the "connection"

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-25 Thread David Grove
;mailto:freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Thanks Walter Unfortunately, as published, M17 is double the bandwidth that would be feasible on Amateur HF using commonly available equipment. However, imagine the possibilities i

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-25 Thread walterh
guys for adding your ideas into the model, and something might happen. All the best.. Walter/K5WH From: David Grove Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 9:43 PM To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Thanks Walter

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-25 Thread David Grove
Sent: Monday, 26 October 2020 12:47 To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Here ya go Alan. See if this can answer some if your questions on that. https://m17-protocol-specification.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ all the best

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-25 Thread walterh
: Al Beard Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Hi all, What about the "connection" to HF? HF where we have bandwidth restrictions hence low bit-rate codecs. That's why I asked the question: In the M17 protocol, is there a "codec specifier&q

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-25 Thread Al Beard via Freetel-codec2
using it last night and it sounded great. >   > > Lots of great work happening in just the past week. >   > Walter/K5WH >   > > From: gerh...@oe3gbb.eu > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 2:33 AM > To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freetel-cod

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-25 Thread walterh
work happening in just the past week. Walter/K5WH From: gerh...@oe3gbb.eu Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 2:33 AM To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Hello Walter and all others, Very interesting project. I think a step

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-25 Thread gerhard
, as their components are still coming in from vendors. Walter/K5WH -Original Message- From: David Rowe Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 7:28 PM To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Thanks Walter. I was wondering about

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread Bruce Perens via Freetel-codec2
If >> > things move on with M17 then I will create a proper M17 Gateway program >> > with echo functionality to allow for dynamic control of the reflector, >> > but that is far off at the moment. >> > >> > I have tested my code against itself, and most of it seems to

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread Mooneer Salem
far off at the moment. > > > > I have tested my code against itself, and most of it seems to work, some > > corners have not been tested yet, but they will be in due course. > > > > If anyone has an M17 transceiver and wishes to play with the code, I'd > > be inte

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread walterh
between reflectors to try that also. Walter/K5WH -Original Message- From: Al Beard via Freetel-codec2 Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 8:09 PM To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Al Beard Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Hi all

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread walterh
, October 24, 2020 7:28 PM To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Thanks Walter. I was wondering about this statement on the M17 page: "M17 uses Codec2, written and developed by David Rowe. Codec2 outperforms existing propri

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread Al Beard via Freetel-codec2
Hi all, Somewhere in the M17 protocol is there a Codec2 mode number? As, my Freebeacon here could put the Codec2 data into a M17 reflector but I'd like to stick to mode 700C data. Alan VK2ZIW On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 10:58:10 +1030, David Rowe wrote > Thanks Walter. I was wondering about this

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread David Rowe
o it is early in the development stages, but things are indeed moving > fast, as of just the ast few weeks. > >   > >   > >   > > Walter/K5WH > >   > > *From:* Adrian Musceac > *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:27 PM > *To:* freetel-codec2@lists.so

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread walterh
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Hi Walter, Is there like a mailing list of the project or something? Adrian On October 24, 2020 4:13:56 PM UTC, walt...@k5wh.net <mailto:walt...@k5wh.net> wrote: Several of us have been working wi

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread Adrian Musceac
en Source World! > > > >Walter/K5WH > > > >-Original Message- >From: Al Beard >Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:52 AM >To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project > > > >Hi all, >

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread David Rowe
> >   > > M17 is another great victory for the Open Source World! > >   > > Walter/K5WH > >   > > -Original Message- > From: Al Beard > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:52 AM > To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Fre

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread walterh
great victory for the Open Source World! Walter/K5WH -Original Message- From: Al Beard Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:52 AM To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project Hi all, I was looking at the M17 project

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-24 Thread Bruce Perens via Freetel-codec2
It is also possible to use one of the existing low-bandwidth text formats on the upper or lower edge of the voice signal. The advantage being that more people could read it. On Fri, Oct 23, 2020, 10:54 PM Al Beard wrote: > Hi all, > > I was looking at the M17 project and noticing their

[Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-23 Thread Al Beard
Hi all, I was looking at the M17 project and noticing their discussion on callsign sending. Suggesting in 48 bits for Src and Dest, packing the characters as RT11 filenames used to do. (Digital PDP-11 of 1975) What I notice in our HF mode 700D, it has quite poor data reliability particularly in