[FRIAM] Updike Vs the Bard

2010-12-01 Thread plissaman
Define yourself.  You'll be right!   Me, I prefer Hamlet's definition:  What a piece of work is a man!  How noble in reason!  How infinite in faculty!  In form, in moving, how express and admirable! In action how like an angel!  In apprehension how like a God! Peter Lissaman, Da

[FRIAM] more on debt and zero sum games

2010-12-01 Thread glen e. p. ropella
I found this post interesting: Money Is Not Real http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/003326.html -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] Updike Vs the Bard

2010-12-01 Thread Nicholas Thompson
I Always wondered how Hamlet knew what an angel looked like. Let alone, God. Seems like a version of Wittgenstein’s bug-in-a-box problem. N From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of plissa...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:13

Re: [FRIAM] Updike Vs the Bard

2010-12-01 Thread lrudolph
On 1 Dec 2010 at 13:12, Nicholas Thompson wrote: I Always wondered how Hamlet knew what an angel looked like. Let alone, God. ... Nick, you are being an uncareful reader. Here's the text from Hamlet, again: What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason! How infinite in faculty!

Re: [FRIAM] Updike Vs the Bard

2010-12-01 Thread James Steiner
I thought Hamlet was being ironic... Or am I being the Mayor of Missingthepointsville? ~~James www.turtlezero.com On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:13 PM, plissa...@comcast.net wrote: Define yourself.  You'll be right! Me, I prefer Hamlet's definition: What a piece of work is a man!  How noble in

Re: [FRIAM] Updike Vs the Bard

2010-12-01 Thread Nicholas Thompson
OK, James, you spooked me. So, I looked it up. The context is very complex. http://www.shakespeare-literature.com/Hamlet/7.html It is one of the Mad Scenes, at the end of which Hamlet describes his ... uh ... depressive state of mind. But the characterization of man seems sincere, because he

Re: [FRIAM] Updike Vs the Bard

2010-12-01 Thread Vladimyr Ivan Burachynsky
There are angelic images in the Babylonian periods (Winged Bearded warriors) . The Egyptians had the bodiless angel with the typical Byzantine form. I've seen Nike in Paris and she is clearly an angelic form. Manuscripts were in circulation quite a bit earlier in Northern Europe and the

Re: [FRIAM] Updike Vs the Bard

2010-12-01 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Yes, Vladimyr, and beautiful images they are. But what did the painter use as a model? God may have made Man in the image of himself, but made god in his own image. It is the ultimate anthropomorphism. I was originally making a joke, but I seem to have started a theological bicker,