[FRIAM] The disappearing virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Joseph Spinden
Here's an article I came across today: Opinion: Academic Publishing Is Broken | The Scientist http://the-scientist.com/2012/03/19/opinion-academic-publishing-is-broken/ This started me thinking about what services publishers perform in general. As this article points out, for the

[FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread peggy miller
At the risk of taking the side of the greedy publishers, I still wonder where enough profits will exist to cover costs of updates and writing new books if everyone wants free books. I wrote a book that I think is good. I am still trying to find an agent to go the publisher route because it would

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread glen e. p. ropella
I think the fundamental problem is that the economies of scale are collapsing. And I (tin foil hat in hand) tend to think it's a function of population growth, resource depletion, and non-local homogenization brought about by information technologies. Music is a good example. The recent surge

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Pamela McCorduck
It would be difficult for me, after having published ten books, to be completely impartial when I review the business model of book publishing, but perhaps I could summarize by saying these people figured out 1% - 99% long before Wall Street. Information technologies only exacerbated what was

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Grant Holland
Why can't we dominate the whole book publishing industry by implementing the books that we write as ebooks (format undefined) and giving them away for free? After all, books are software. They aren't programming, but they are software. So why can't we implement an open source model for our

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Roger Critchlow
I think the problem is speculation in intellectual property, ie looking at the potential windfall from owning a monopoly on a popular meme versus the horatio-alger story of the hard work of authors and publishers being fairly rewarded. The base issue is that all the ways you can use ownership of

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Joseph Spinden
My thought was that there could be an intermediate ground that might be more profitable for the authors and less expensive for the consumers. Amazon built a tremendous business by eliminating store fronts. So, I was thinking of what parts of the print publishers' current functions could be

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Owen Densmore
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Joseph Spinden j...@qri.us wrote: My thought was that there could be an intermediate ground that might be more profitable for the authors and less expensive for the consumers. Amazon built a tremendous business by eliminating store fronts. So, I was

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Joseph Spinden
In order for the sort of system I am considering to work, there would still be a need for intermediaries to edit and review, format, et cetera, to ensure a high quality finished product. I see no reason not to also have individuals/firms specializing in marketing etextbooks, even for specific

[FRIAM] virtual library continued

2012-04-20 Thread peggy miller
I don't get it, or I just don't agree. Responding to Ropella Similarly, why pay a bunch of money for a fossilized form of knowledge from, say, an English cosmologist when I can chat with my local cosmologist over a pint? which might have been a tongue in cheek statement, ( it sure would have been

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Pamela McCorduck
Owen, haven't sold enough via Kindle to tell. I was stunned--somebody informed me on FB--that Machines Who Think sells for thirty bucks on Kindle! That seems to me a good way of making sure none gets sold. Pamela: some of your books come in Kindle versions. Do you have any insights about

Re: [FRIAM] The disappearing virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Russell Standish
This has already been done. See, for instance, Amazon's CreateSpace (previously known as BookSurge). There is also a competitor based in Canada, whose name I have unfortunately forgotten. Both paper and eBook is supported. Editing, typesetting you can source yourself, or you can avail yourself of

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

2012-04-20 Thread Edward Angel
On Amazon my textbook sells for $85 and the Kindle edition for $80, so there are almost no Kindle sales. Hard to explain the pricing. Although pads may change this, students prefer to have paper versions of books. One thing that at least some publishers are trying is to sell both version for

[FRIAM] The evil empire?

2012-04-20 Thread Bruce Sherwood
Following on the heels of the truly horrible Apple scheme for screwing etextbook authors, here's another truly horrible Apple scheme for screwing Macbook customers: http://www.seattlerex.com/seattle-rex-vs-apple-the-verdict-is-in/ I gather this tale has gone viral. Bruce

Re: [FRIAM] The evil empire?

2012-04-20 Thread Douglas Roberts
This might be a good time to mention Linux again, bitches. Sorry, I've been catching up on Breaking Bad... -Doug Sent from Android. On Apr 20, 2012 8:34 PM, Bruce Sherwood bruce.sherw...@gmail.com wrote: Following on the heels of the truly horrible Apple scheme for screwing etextbook