Is it because the Republicans want to stop health care for the poor? That would
be evil.
-J.
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From: Patrick Reilly patrick.rei...@ipsociety.net
Date: 01/10/2013 08:01 (GMT+01:00)
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Here's an interesting take on the issue. What do insurance companies think
about climate change?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/business/insurers-stray-from-the-conservative-line-on-climate-change.html
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Nick Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.netwrote:
Owen,
Thank you for this, Robert.
It was just the sort of New Thought I was looking for.
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
What happened is that the Republicans are refusing to allocate money to
fund the government unless the health-care law is excluded. They are
willing to shut down the entire government as a way to stop a program that
was lawfully enacted. It's a backdoor way to win a fight they already
lost. In
Only intellectually and morally, in certain parts of the country and society.
On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote:
Is America bankrupt?
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First, he agreed that there was clear climate change, that's simply a
matter of record keeping.
Second: he could not then discern clear research that it was due to
pollution.
Thus I'd guess he'd say, Good more research is a good thing!
.. And he'd stick with the difficulty of experiment, but
Russ Abbott wrote at 10/01/2013 08:51 AM:
What happened is that the Republicans are refusing to allocate money to
fund the government unless the health-care law is excluded. They are
willing to shut down the entire government as a way to stop a program that
was lawfully enacted. It's a backdoor
Here's a new thought: What is more important .. the increase in civilian
deaths in jihadist warfare or the number of deaths being caused by climate
change?
This comes from Papa Francesco's impatient sighs about the west's focus on
trivialities like gays and women in the church, contraception,
NIH and NASA are shut down, while NSA is up. Science is the first victim.
-J.
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Owen Densmore wrote at 10/01/2013 10:10 AM:
I'll take a page from Doug: I think AssHoles are the true problem.
And, of course, you're using asshole as a synonym for human.
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This was fun:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/09/meadows-boehner-defund-obamacare-suicide-caucus-geography.html
Where the suicide caucus lives, republican congressmen and mitt romney won
last fall with double digit margins, the population is 80% white, and
there's not a chance
I am amused:
Sith work together better. My nephiews get along better. But a room a grown
adults
Hmmm
Where's Darth Sidius and or Emperor palpatine when you need them?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Patrick Reilly
patrick.rei...@ipsociety.net wrote:
We've become Italy en route to
Yup, I guess we're all asses in one area or another. I loved the interview
with the pope where he was asked Who are you. In church speak, he said
I'm an ass.
-- Owen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote:
Owen Densmore wrote at 10/01/2013 10:10 AM:
I'll take a
I still blame the potential zombie apocalypse and the presence of Sith on
this one :P
(For those that don't know Sith are the zelouse force users in the Star
Wars universe, with it being common to come up with over the top plots)
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org
Sounds like a Ponzi scheme: over the top multiplying of leverage.
-- Owen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.comwrote:
I still blame the potential zombie apocalypse and the presence of Sith on
this one :P
(For those that don't know Sith are the zelouse
Just saw this tweet:
America was not shut down properly. Would you like to start America in
safe mode, with free healthcare and without the guns? (Recommended)
https://twitter.com/cshallwriter/status/384935341318103041
-J.
On 10/01/2013 08:14 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
I am amused:
Sith
Marcus G. Daniels wrote at 10/01/2013 11:55 AM:
And if they do harm to the full faith and credit of the country, I hope the
White House will involve some `creative' Washington lawyers to deal with them.
Yep. That is the job of the executive. I don't hope for it, I expect it.
What I _hope_
Heres a Haiku. Maybe can come up with something better
government shutdown.
do senators not get sick?
then i blame the poor
Cody Smith
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.comwrote:
I still blame the potential zombie apocalypse and the presence of Sith on
Hmm a pragmatic question:
If the people that don't want resolution are on strike how do we lobby
obama just to fire them, and then hire new workers?
He might have to use a executive order.
Might also be a good time to lobby for just a whole other system, as the
one we have now doesn't seem to work
Dood -
Heres a Haiku. Maybe can come up with something better
government shutdown.
do senators not get sick?
then i blame the poor
Cody the Doodson
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Gillian Densmore wrote at 10/01/2013 01:15 PM:
If the people that don't want resolution are on strike how do we lobby
obama just to fire them, and then hire new workers?
I don't really understand the question. We're talking about indictments (or
more subtle methods) against those (e.g. Ted
Unless I responded to the wrong thread- Or used a poor anology-
It's my understanding that because some people don't want nationalised
health care and there was budget coming due they decided to not work and
shutdown the government.
So my question is: as such can Obama not replace the people that
Gillian Densmore wrote at 10/01/2013 02:18 PM:
So my question is: as such can Obama not replace the people that forced the
closure?
No, not directly. They're elected by their various districts. He can
definitely apply lots of pressure he (seems to) have not yet applied, though.
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com
wrote:
So my question is: as such can Obama not replace the people that forced
the closure?
I believe they're immune to prosecution except by congress itself, most
especially on questions of being bad congress people.
On 10/1/13 3:55 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Gillian Densmore
gil.densm...@gmail.com mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote:
So my question is: as such can Obama not replace the people that
forced the closure?
I believe they're immune to prosecution except
Heres one more try at the haiku thing.
feds are not at work
congress is messing stuff up
seems normal to me
Cody Smith
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:22 PM, cody dooderson d00d3r...@gmail.com wrote:
Heres a Haiku. Maybe can come up with something better
government shutdown.
do senators not get
haikus continue
dooderson restates obvious
all is well on FRIAM
Heres one more try at the haiku thing.
feds are not at work
congress is messing stuff up
seems normal to me
Cody Smith
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:22 PM, cody dooderson d00d3r...@gmail.com
mailto:d00d3r...@gmail.com wrote:
Steve Smith wrote at 10/01/2013 03:49 PM:
I'm not sure what they would be prosecuted *for*? Acting in bad faith?
We're not talking about the shutdown, per se. If the House refuses to pass a
bill to raise the debt limit, then the country defaults. It's unclear to me
what that implies. But
Your children and grandchildren will suffer from this sabotaging of
the US government. None of this is funny.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:25 PM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote:
Steve Smith wrote at 10/01/2013 03:49 PM:
I'm not sure what they would be prosecuted *for*? Acting in bad faith?
Got it in one.
J.
On 10/1/13 12:16 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
Is it because the Republicans want to stop health care for the poor?
That would be evil.
-J.
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From: Patrick Reilly patrick.rei...@ipsociety.net
Date: 01/10/2013 08:01
On 10/1/13 5:34 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote:
Your children and grandchildren will suffer from this sabotaging of
the US government. None of this is funny.
As they will also from our collective sabotaging of the environment and
the economies and societies of the third world, yet we seem to
Assuming the pres invokes the 14th amendment, and it goes to the
supremes, what happens while they're hearing it?
Of course the teeps might not push the case uphill, given their prior
belief in said court decisions, and that they're anarchists.
C.
On 10/1/13 6:04 PM, Joseph Spinden wrote:
I meant to make a general statement to the list about how I feel about
the dismantlement of the US by anarcho-capitalists and
liberterians-of-convenience. My comment was meant to be in the
stream and was not directed at your specific comments. My apologies
for allowing my taste for brevity to
On 10/1/13 5:34 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote:
Your children and grandchildren will suffer from this sabotaging of
the US government. None of this is funny.
Is someone laughing? Not Pelosi, who calls them arsonists, or Reid
who calls them anarchists, or the president who says they want a
fyi, all.
-tj
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Subject: [MEA] A new journal, systems' accepting papers on media ecology
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Dear MEA Collaegues – I want
Patrick -
Thanks for weighing in, even if your terseness got mistaken for some
form of criticism!
I meant to make a general statement to the list about how I feel about
the dismantlement of the US by anarcho-capitalists and
liberterians-of-convenience. My comment was meant to be in the
stream
Robert -
Here's an interesting take on the issue. What do insurance companies
think about climate change?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/business/insurers-stray-from-the-conservative-line-on-climate-change.html
Good contribution. I don't know if this helps with Nick's pursuit of a
Interesting. Might actually help pull back the Friam meetings to focus on
multi-discisiplianary discussions. Seems to blend the mechanical
(modeling) and the philosophic .. at least looking at the first issue:
http://www.systems-journal.eu/issue/view/13
This was evocative:
Predicting the
Steve:
I was a card carrying Libertarian at the age of 19. At the age of 57 and
having some life experience under my belt, I am very skeptical that
applying first principles in rational good faith will yield effective
results. For two examples , I first offer the spectacle of the former Fed
On 10/1/13 8:34 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
Suggestion to those really concerned: follow Larry Lessig and
RootStrikers.
http://www.rootstrikers.org/
Their premise is simple: we have lost our republic and they are
working on regaining it. Larry has been successful in several areas,
especially
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