Re: [FRIAM] Tea Party

2013-11-10 Thread Stephen Thompson
Steve: Thanks for your insights, especially your characterization the Tea Party are demanding entitlements for themselves while demanding cutting them for others. I have considered their motto to be We got ours, devil take the hindmost. More pointed I consider them to be dogs-in-the-manger

Re: [FRIAM] 11 American Nations

2013-11-10 Thread Stephen Thompson
Steve: Also more insights, thanks. I consider the 11 Nations as a model. With all models there are abstractions in order to make it manageable to gain insights of the domain. Mr. Woodard's model is very rich as models go - certainly more so than the binary scales you point out have become

Re: [FRIAM] 11 American Nations

2013-11-10 Thread Steve Smith
StephT - Thanks for more insight into your perspective, including your politics and demographic embedding. I appreciate your thoughts about models in this context. What I think I appreciated most about Woodard's model was it's richness as you call it, but that it seemed to have *little* if

[FRIAM] the previous surveillance party

2013-11-10 Thread Roger Critchlow
I'd forgotten, but http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/public-editor/sullivan-lessons-in-a-surveillance-drama-redux.html?src=recg the NYTimes had evidence of warrantless wiretapping by the first Dubya administration and was persuaded to sit on the story until after Bush was reelected. Which is why

Re: [FRIAM] 11 American Nations

2013-11-10 Thread Stephen Thompson
Steve: Ouch. Its uncomfortable when you hold up a description of Americaby making us look in the mirror. Ol' Pogo was right. (We have met the enemy and he is ...). Rant away, my good man. You have thought deeper on this than I have. My attraction to the 11 Nations Model is its

Re: [FRIAM] 11 American Nations

2013-11-10 Thread Steve Smith
ST - Ouch. Its uncomfortable when you hold up a description of Americaby making us look in the mirror. Ol' Pogo was right. (We have met the enemy and he is ...). Rant away, my good man. You are welcome ;^)! You have thought deeper on this than I have. My attraction to the 11

Re: [FRIAM] disorder caused by individual, or collective human agents, in hierarchically-ordered and complex systems--systems composed of sub-systems that, in turn, have their own subsystems, and so o

2013-11-10 Thread Arlo Barnes
*Old email:* What a great cascade here... I'm not sure anyone but you and I are properly enjoying it however grin. The delete key suffices. And, in the spirit of hiding in plain sight, we have to populate caches like Arlo's with _something_ to lower the SNR. Personally, I feel successful