Re: [FRIAM] FW: Ting Internet

Hi Nick! I would LOVE to have more options! Right now I have DSL. It's peppy for DSL. As importantly it's reliable. I had Comcast(also known as Cox on the West coast) for about 6Months. It simply wasn't reliable so I swiched back to CyberMesa who are. On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Nick

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

I like it...  seems like the precedence of tuppence and thruppence adds charm if not validity! Arlo,   I stand corrected.  However, there is something awfully charming about

Re: [FRIAM] subjectivity and brain scans

Motives are, however, purely mental constructs that are not directly observable. [NST==>Another knee-slapper. Granting to the author the notion that the word “drive” is equivalent to some notion of “cause”, we learn that behaviors are caused by purely mental constructs. How could anything be

Re: [FRIAM] subjectivity and brain scans

[NST==>I persist in not seeing the relevance of the physiological information to the question of the nature of consciousness or, if one prefers, the question of how it makes sense to talk about consciousness. I assume [from my vast store of ignorance] that computer folks would all agree that

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

Arlo, I stand corrected. However, there is something awfully charming about “thrupple.” Can I continue to use it? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] subjectivity and brain scans

Roger, Thanks for sending along the Science quote, which is an absolutely perfect target for a couple of my pet rages. See larding: Goal-directed human behaviors are driven by motives. [NST==>That sentence is all higgledy-piggledy. Notice that we could flip the words

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > a sign IS a thrupple .. or whatever that lovely word is A 3-tuple? I believe "tuple" itself is just a generalisation of "double, triple, quadruple, quintuple, [...]", with "singleton" being the odd one (pun?

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

I perhaps put us back in the pragmatist weeds by using the term "sign". But Glen is right, a sign IS a thrupple .. or whatever that lovely word is, and no sign has been identified until all three elements have been specified. To get an intuitive idea of the idea of sign, one might take the

[FRIAM] FW: Ting Internet

Hi, Everybody, My $50. Dollar number was way off the mark. Please read below. Sorry, Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

On 03/04/2016 11:17 AM, Russ Abbott wrote: All that is much to sophisticated for me. I don't have a theory or a model (e.g., in terms of interpreters) for how the mind works. Heh, you claim it's too sophisticated and that you don't have a theory or a model for how the mind works, yet you

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

All that is much to sophisticated for me. I don't have a theory or a model (e.g., in terms of interpreters) for how the mind works. This all started as a discussion of subjective behavior. It has drifted into a discussion of thinking more generally -- and in particular thinking about

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

On 03/04/2016 10:27 AM, Russ Abbott wrote: I must have missed the message where you talked about the 3-tuple and don't understand what you mean that a sign is one of 3 objects in a 3-tuple and why it matters. Nick talked about a sign; I was distinguishing a sign from its referent -- which you do

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet

I don't blame folks for lamenting the sad state of internet in Santa Fe, nor in the rest of the USA. On the other hand, down here in Ecuador, I'd be ecstatic to get 5mbps down for under $100. I understand that given a connection to fiber, the unshared bandwidth itself costs $120 mbps/month. The

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

I must have missed the message where you talked about the 3-tuple and don't understand what you mean that a sign is one of 3 objects in a 3-tuple and why it matters. Nick talked about a sign; I was distinguishing a sign from its referent -- which you do too. I also said the reference is often a

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

On 03/03/2016 11:16 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: I find myself confused about what you mean when you say they are "signs that stand in a rigorous, systematic, and extensively confirmed way to ... mathematical relationships". A sign is not (in your view) a thing (other than itself) is it? I would have

Re: [FRIAM] subjectivity and brain scans

Here’s an older one from one of the authors that is free. The new paper gets at directionality – the beginnings of starting to infer the `state machine’. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627312004874 From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and cartoons

Eric, Why would you ask about the pain IN the video? Shouldn't the person reply. "I don't believe in pain IN anything because, for me, pain is not internal it is external." Nick, That was a neat way of touching there square root of 2. If we changed it to the cube root of 2, we have a classic

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet

What I remember is what is on their web site: $89 for home, $139 for business. The $50 was mentioned as the difference. It sounds like I had the highest download speed in the group currently, 80mb/s, but still I am willing to commit to switching to Ting. In fact, I’d commit to the business

[FRIAM] That Time Of Year Rant-

Rant rant: Changing the clock around because---reasons! Can SOMEBODY pls pls PLS form everyone's sanity decide on either one OR the other. I personally like it nice and light out march- most of octoberish PERSONALLY the current system pisses me off! Oh and rant rant google calenders seems to

Re: [FRIAM] subjectivity and brain scans

I’d like to see a contrast between, say, bleeding heart liberals, and the more cunning or hawkish ones.How does Bernie compare to Hillary?Do they both have the same motive indicators / emotional response, and then modulate it in different ways as actions are taken or not? From: Friam

[FRIAM] subjectivity and brain scans

In today's issue of Science, http://science.sciencemag.org/content/351/6277/1074 Goal-directed human behaviors are driven by motives. Motives are, however, purely mental constructs that are not directly observable. Here, we show that the brain’s functional network architecture captures

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and cartoons

I'm not sure what to make of the cartoon comment either. Let's say we all agree that a person in front of us is in pain. Let's say we video tape that person and show it to someone else. We ask our viewer afterwards "Did you see pain in that video?" And he say "Yes." Then we say, "Wait, you mean

[FRIAM] Psychology Is in Crisis Over Whether It’s in Crisis | WIRED

Meanwhile in psychology...http://www.wired.com/2016/03/psychology-crisis-whether-crisis/ -Jochen Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to