Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread Nick Thompson
Hi, Glen, " Your mud is plenty chunky. " I think that's the nicest thing anybody has ever said to me. [sniff] Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From:

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread Nick Thompson
F. Nice! Hoist by my own petard. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
It's the end of the day here in New Mexico, at least for me. For now I'm going to imagine a 2020 debate in which the audience expects the candidates to at least operate in the world of narrative and essay. Fascinating as always, Marcus -Original Message- From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread glen ☣
Well, that confirms that it is more like a layered system, even if it's simply self-reported or all in the diagnoser's head. The last 2 sentences of Kernberg's description directly imply constructive causation. But regardless of any competence with or understanding of this particular domain,

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Eric Smith
Robert and Marcus, good morning, Robert, your original thread is a fine one, and I sort-of know Moshe Levy, though not closely. The thread deserves orders of magnitude more and better attention than I can give it, so apologies in advance for shallowness in the following, or failing to make

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
"What Frank says below is of type (1). What Jochen (and others) have talked about before (childhood experiences, etc.) is more like type (2)." Type 2? The authentic selfhood of the child is not authenticated by the parent(s). According to psycoanalyst Otto Kernberg: "Presenting excessive

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread glen ☣
Ha! Right. Sorry. I didn't mean to offend. But some people really do think you can't get anything done with getting your hands ... muddy. And in their defense, that "pure mud" they use at, say, beauty salons is kinda gross to me. If I get muddy, I much prefer, chunky, heterogeneous mud.

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread glen ☣
Excellent! Thanks, Eric (and everyone -- I'm enjoying this). So, here's my, in class, answer to Nick's quiz: nick> What is the difference between a circular explanation and a recursive one. What is the key dimension that determines whether an explanation is viciously circular? Is the

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Steven A Smith
Robert - I am glad to have found the FRIAM forum--thanks to Steven Guerin--as it so often has an array of viewpoints that come from a variety of learned backgrounds and borne up by interpretations from a variety of news sources. In spite of these differences, the forum threads remain very

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Steven A Smith
Robert - Marcus said: I would say neoliberalism is trying to engineer biased coins that land in a coordinated ways to build something more complex. One way is with trade laws. You replied: I think I can partly agree with this statement ... about the biased coin thing. That is

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
“There are several Internet-based, often donation-dependent (I donate to several), news and opinion outlets that do very good, in-depth investigative journalism” Maybe you are right and it is sustainable. All I know is that I’ll give to Kickstarter campaigns, but I wouldn’t want to depend on

Re: [FRIAM] friam.org

2017-01-20 Thread Gary Schiltz
Oops, that would be http://redfish.com/about.htm. On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > G > > > > Could this possibly explain why some of our messages go missing from time > to tme? > > > > N > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
Why does Trump display Narcissistic [Personality] Disorder Symptoms? Because he feels unrelenting emptiness and low self esteem which causes him great pain when anyone criticizes him or suggests that someone else is superior to him. This unbearable pain causes him to counterattack forcefully when

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Robert Wall
> > Without millions of dollars of cash flow, there can’t be professional > investigators. Not so. Not at all. There are several Internet-based, often donation-dependent (I donate to several), news and opinion outlets that do very good, in-depth investigative journalism Take a look at Greg

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread Nick Thompson
MUDDYING UP!??? Glen, you're talking about my LIFE'S WORK You did mean to say, "Adding purified essence of wisdom," right? (};-)] Thank god for Eric's distillation. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread Nick Thompson
Nice, Eric, right on. Why does Trump display Narcissistic Disorder Symptoms. Because he has Narcissistic Disorder That’s viciously circular. But, Why does trump behave like a narcissist? Because he has Narcissistic Disorder is not so viciously circular because one has added the

Re: [FRIAM] friam.org

2017-01-20 Thread Nick Thompson
G Could this possibly explain why some of our messages go missing from time to tme? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] How statistics lost their power – and why we should fear what comes next | William Davies | Politics | The Guardian

2017-01-20 Thread George Duncan
Important analysis. Thanks, Tom. George Duncan Emeritus Professor of Statistics Carnegie Mellon University GeorgeDuncanART.com > On Jan 20, 2017, at 10:25 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > >

[FRIAM] friam.org

2017-01-20 Thread Gary Schiltz
In looking for the FRIAM archives, I discovered a domain friam.org. The site's whois info is hidden behind a privacy service, so I was wondering if anyone knows who has the site? Just curious. Anyway, the FriamGroup link on http://redfish.com/about.html points to this same URL. I imagine that it

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
Robert writes: “The former--predominately the MSM--freely castigates any news source other than from among their own too-often colluding colleagues. The former fears the latter, especially since the barriers to entry are so low, comparatively.” Here again there is a benefit and a cost

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
Robert writes: << Or, can we evolve consciously as a society to find a more inclusive solution?>> To make this happen, norms have to change, and that means everyone evolves. But, initially there can be a smaller number of people, `elites’ if want to call them that, that design and construct

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread Eric Charles
Glen, I'm not sure if Nick can do that. However, he is very good at clarifying issues by telling me how I am wrong. With that in mind, I'll attempt a summary, of which I am fairly confident: Circular explanations occur when a description of the phenomenon in question is offered as an explanation

[FRIAM] European Populism in the Age of Donald Trump - The New York Times

2017-01-20 Thread Owen Densmore
Interesting post on populist movements in Europe .. We Are Not Alone sorta thing: ​​ https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/05/world/europe/populism-in-age-of-trump.html ​A populist groundswell, newly bolstered by voters’ rejection of the Italian government’s referendum on Sunday, has

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-20 Thread glen ☣
On 01/18/2017 07:38 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Here is your assignment for tomorrow. I am a (proud) C student. So, of course, I will never meet your deadlines. 8^) > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281410347_Comparative_psychology_and_the_recursive_structure_of_filter_explanations >

[FRIAM] How statistics lost their power – and why we should fear what comes next | William Davies | Politics | The Guardian

2017-01-20 Thread Tom Johnson
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/19/crisis-of-statistics-big-data-democracy TJ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe