Re: [FRIAM] Dope slaps, anyone? Text displaying correctly?

2023-01-16 Thread glen
Aha! Yes, I had not noticed that new point. My reduction ended up on a fairly commonplace sentiment that we're reflexive animals ... that our perspectives and [non]literals feed back upon each other. Although I disagree with you about whether a restatement of something common place is worth [re

Re: [FRIAM] Dope slaps, anyone? Text displaying correctly?

2023-01-16 Thread David Eric Smith
Nick, Glen, hi; thank you both, Sorry for dropout — life — I want to acknowledge Glen’s earlier list-form digest of the various assertions, which is in parts rendered in terms I don’t know, so I am impaired in following. Maybe more when the smoke clears, on that branch, unless I draw all blank

Re: [FRIAM] Dope slaps, anyone? Text displaying correctly?

2023-01-16 Thread glen
I *think* that works. Ordinarily, I react badly to hyper-formality. But one reason to formalize is so that we can be agnostic about the origins of some thing, abstracting it from the world. Whether an ultra-abstracter like Peirce would support the historical/scholarly logging of whatever messy

Re: [FRIAM] Dope slaps, anyone? Text displaying correctly?

2023-01-16 Thread Prof David West
I do not know and have not read Feferman, so this may be totally off base, but ... glen stated: *Worded one way: Schema are the stable patterns that emerge from the particulars. And the variation of the particulars is circumscribed (bounded, defined) by the schema. * This is a description of "c

Re: [FRIAM] Dope slaps, anyone? Text displaying correctly?

2023-01-16 Thread glen
Well, not "languageless", but "language-independent". Now that you've forced me to think harder, that phrase "language-independent" isn't quite right. It's more like "meta-language" ... a family of languages such that the family might be "language-like" ... a language of languages ... a higher o

[FRIAM] Fwd: Teaching Social Studies with Systems Thinking

2023-01-16 Thread Tom Johnson
Perhaps of interest === Tom Johnson Inst. for Analytic Journalism Santa Fe, New Mexico 505-577-6482 === -- Forwarded message - From: SDS Pre-college Education SIG Date: Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 1:22 AM Subject: Teaching Social Studies with System