Re: [FRIAM] Target Practice with your Television

2013-05-08 Thread glen ropella
I share your lament about the homogenization of culture. As I get older, I pine for those early days of requesting files through ftpmail and e-mail addresses with lots of ! in them. Back then, the internet was fun and cool. Now it's a cesspool of TL;DR people like me yapping about stuff nobody

Re: [FRIAM] Target Practice with your Television

2013-05-08 Thread glen ropella
I think we agree on most of these points. Another reason I like TVs is because I'm mostly a wall flower at parties. Smalltalk irritates me and I only talk to people after a given party passes through that phase transition where it ratchets down a bit and allows more intimate conversations

Re: [FRIAM] Target Practice with your Television

2013-05-08 Thread glen ropella
On 05/08/2013 10:31 AM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: What is a counter example of non-homogenization of culture? I think homogenization of (or homogenized state of) culture can take different forms. Were it normal, it could be fatter or skinnier. If it's skewed/biased (which is most likely) it can

Re: [FRIAM] Target Practice with your Television

2013-05-08 Thread glen ropella
On 05/08/2013 11:44 AM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: It depends what you mean by `lead'. I'd distinguish between influence and innovate. I'd claim that culture does not innovate, it can only put down a road and encourage people to take it, and thereby set the stage for innovators. That's a

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread glen ropella
OK. We don't really disagree. But I'll push the point just a tiny bit further and see if it goes anywhere. On 04/29/2013 03:31 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On the other hand, I'm not setting out to *prove* my concept of what is generational, but rather to explain or illuminate it. [...] I'm

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread glen ropella
On 04/30/2013 12:07 PM, Steve Smith wrote: (how many books do you/father/grandfather own? how much personal correspondence do each of you maintain? how many journal entries (words, lines, pages?) do you average? etc.) I think I can gather some data. I already have a number of questions I ask

Re: [FRIAM] formaldehyde is made in brain cells from methanol (wood alcohol) by ADH1 enzyme -- breakthrough paradigm by Prof. Woodrow C Monte: Rich Murray 2013.04.27

2013-04-28 Thread glen ropella
Very interesting! Thanks, Rich. It's amazing to me how biologically important formaldehyde is, not only as a toxin, but as a naturally occurring metabolite. I don't remember when I first heart the aphorism The dose is the poison. But it comes up again and again. All the interesting chemicals

Re: [FRIAM] Meta-discussion

2013-04-25 Thread glen ropella
Yeah, but at least FOAR allows top-posting! Nothing on the internet is more irrational than the bias against top-posting. And I mean it. The bias against top-posting is the lower bound of rationality. Hm. Would it be oxymoronic to claim the existence of an upper bound on irrationality? Is

Re: [FRIAM] science and language

2013-04-23 Thread glen ropella
On 04/22/2013 06:53 PM, Steve Smith wrote: And is it possible that this neurological structure literally co-evolved with language itself? [...] How much does sharing some basic language (structure?) get involved in empathic understanding? Yes, it's entirely possible that they happened to

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread glen ropella
On 04/22/2013 11:37 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: But if it's possible what's the difference as far as your perspective on what science is? My point was that you, too, can build a device that might allow you to test E=mc^2. It was in response to your statement that: On 04/22/2013 11:15 AM, Russ

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread glen ropella
Sorry, I did not intend that you would use a scientific theory in your daily life. I merely wanted to say that E=mc^2 is _not_ science. The science lies in the test, the actions you can take. I thought I said that. But maybe I was unclear. On 04/23/2013 07:57 AM, Russ Abbott wrote: But I

Re: [FRIAM] Presented for FRIAMic Consideration

2013-04-23 Thread glen ropella
Whenever I go down to Portland State University, there's a fundamentalist preacher standing on a bench asserting that all the people walking around are morally in danger. He talks and talks, rails and rails. Yet the students discuss their classes or their social networks, study their books,

Re: [FRIAM] The nature of Discussion Fora

2013-03-20 Thread glen ropella
On 03/19/2013 07:03 PM, Steve Smith wrote: do you have any references I could follow? The Twitch Ontology would be new to me (excepting what you just wrote). It felt as if it explained human behaviour as an automaton, but obviously more than that? No references. As far as I know, I made it

[FRIAM] Against Kierkegaard (was Re: Google Reader and More: Google Abandoning of Apps/Services)

2013-03-15 Thread glen ropella
On 03/14/2013 09:16 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: Er.. IMAP? You have complete control over gmail. I uploaded 20+ years of mail to it over a day or so and have it all cached on my IMAP clients (thunderbird and mail.app) .. yes one needs 1 and I'm positive you have multiple clients. I have to

[FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-15 Thread glen ropella
On 09/14/2012 06:56 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: For me, consciousness is a point of view, and any telic system has a point of view. Zombies are telic systems, no? That's a great question. I would answer no. Zombies cannot be telic (as I understand that word, of course) because they are

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-15 Thread glen ropella
On 09/15/2012 06:59 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Wow! This Zombie thing is WAY more complicated than I thought it was. Although I haven't read any Kant first hand, I hear him lurking in the background. For me, a thermostat/furnace system is a telic system. It acts in such a way as to

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: The lost Member

2012-08-24 Thread glen ropella
On 08/22/2012 08:24 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote: We can manually add second and third addressess for people that want to post from multiple accounts. Forward your request and additional email addresses to me. And be sure to change your personality just slightly depending on which e-mail address

[FRIAM] Wikileaks Mirror Taken Down: Host Buckles Under Demands from Upstream Provider | Electronic Frontier Foundation

2011-01-03 Thread Glen Ropella G1
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/12/weakest-links-host-buckles-when-upstream-provider -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at