Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-02-01 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism? On 01/29/2015 07:56 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote: I have the distinct awkward feeling that, while I write, there is no compelling evidence of my existence, only my utterings. Perhaps

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-02-01 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Vladimyr wrote: I have a Circulant Graph that appears very Hamiltonian in 3D and not so in 2D, but still interesting? Mathematica recently (ver 10) added a graph analysis capability. It has a Hamiltonian predicate (HamiltonianGraphQ). Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-30 Thread glen
On 01/29/2015 07:56 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote: I have the distinct awkward feeling that, while I write, there is no compelling evidence of my existence, only my utterings. Perhaps my hollow ringing echoes are sufficient to serve as my fake evidence, should I choose to perjure myself in a

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-29 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen Sent: January-28-15 4:33 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism? Heh, this time it seems even gmane failed: http://news.gmane.org

[FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-28 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Glen wrote: mgd circa Wed Jan 28 00:06:38 EST 2015: Consider counting boolean values. Trial one gives `1', `0', `0'. Trail two gives `1', `0', `0', and, `GodIsGreat'. The practical question is whether or not its good or adequate practice to throw away the outlier. Obviously, I tend to

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-28 Thread glen
Heh, this time it seems even gmane failed: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.org.region.new-mexico.santa-fe.friam Marcus G. Daniels Wed Jan 28 16:38:36 EST 2015: I suppose I could start giving them tags like [so-and-so topic].shard[0,1,etc] in the subject line to cope with the deficiency. I bet

[FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-27 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
To Marcus and Group, If there are multiple points of view of any event, which one of the many can be true, or are all true in some respect? If every view point is contaminated by default belief/delusion how can we decide which is true? Consensus or democracy seems appealing but it is a very

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-27 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 15:25 -0600, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote: The litigants have no right to enforce their contrived rules on the judges, or do they? Yes, it is just a struggle for power. There are no rules. Marcus FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-27 Thread glen
I agree with Marcus that the litigants do have the right to enforce their contrived rules on the judges (as usual, the scare quotes foreshadow my rhetoric). I think this is mostly because there is no line between judge and litigant. We can see this quite obviously with the rampant

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:26 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism? To Marcus and Group, If there are multiple points of view of any event, which one of the many can be true, or are all true in some respect

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-27 Thread Grant Holland
-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Vladimyr Burachynsky Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:26 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism? To Marcus and Group, If there are multiple points of view of any event, which one

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2015-01-27 Thread Nick Thompson
...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:36 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism? Well said, Vladimyr. Frank Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 wimber

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-23 Thread Nick Thompson
, 2014 12:27 AM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism? Nick writes: So when someone proposes a measure of something complicated such as atheism, it's fair to ask what the validator of that measure would be, what

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-23 Thread Bela Patkai
On 23 December 2014 at 10:05, Nick Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: I have to say that people like Dawkins, FEEL religious to me. If, at some level, they did not believe in God, how could it make such a difference to them. They doth protest too much. They do protest too much,

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-22 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Nick wrote: Well, 30 or more tiny fm radios placed at strategic locations around the mother board, might be more like it. No? Like if a team of two or three aliens came to watch the Earth from orbit, before there was broadcasting. Relatively speaking, that's how many individual things they'd

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-22 Thread glen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_%28codename%29 I don't disagree that low N studies are useful. But high N studies are also useful. On 12/22/2014 06:06 AM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: Nick wrote: Well, 30 or more tiny fm radios placed at strategic locations around the mother board,

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-22 Thread Gillian Densmore
@Glen before diving to deep into it with numbers- do you have a working defination of Agnostic vs Atheist? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:54 AM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_%28codename%29 I don't disagree that low N studies are useful. But high N studies are

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-22 Thread Nick Thompson
: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus G. Daniels Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:06 AM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism? Nick wrote: Well, 30 or more tiny fm radios placed at strategic

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-22 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Nick writes: So when someone proposes a measure of something complicated such as atheism, it's fair to ask what the validator of that measure would be, what the measure is actually intended to GET AT. And one of the kind of standard observations that my kind of psychologist often makes, is that

[FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-21 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Marcus' proposal is for _finding_ the correlates to come up with a functional neuronal biomarker, which might include binding patters across the entire cortex (eg eeg), which I'd prefer. I thinking of complex or hypercomplex cells of the visual cortex -- that a hierarchical combination of

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-21 Thread Nick Thompson
: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus G. Daniels Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 11:10 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism? Marcus' proposal is for _finding_ the correlates to come up

[FRIAM] [ SPAM ] Re: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

2014-12-18 Thread Carl Tollander
We have at hand Bee's essay on phenomenology in physics. The essay might be summarized by considering coherency as a sufficient argument for a scientific theory. Going further and suggesting that non-scientific theories are not worthy of personal or public support is a separate proposal,