Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread glen
One of the principles of FAIR+ is to carefully track the provenance of data. Taken seriously, this implies we should keep the "raw" data [⛧], each transform, and each checkpoint of the derived data, throughout any given workflow. What LLMs do is start a workflow from a checkpoint (or a set of

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Smith
On 4/7/23 1:01 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: Your human response (as in call and response) to the machine brought to mind this letter written on this day in history dealing with similar themes. April 7, 1901 Honorable Governor Miguel Antonio Otero II, Office of the Governor, New Mexico

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Smith
Or ... or ... they counter the conventional wisdom that *humans* generalize their learning or reasoning beyond text. We are the OG bots. I am fascinated by the "bootstrapping" that semantic/syntactic recursion seems to imply.   I'm looking for examples in these LLMs where this is exposed.  

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Smith
Or ... or ... they counter the conventional wisdom that *humans* generalize their learning or reasoning beyond text. We are the OG bots. I do really appreciate this duality/tension:   I think you were the first to alert me to this a few thousand messages back (before LLMs/GPT talk, etc

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread glen
Or ... or ... they counter the conventional wisdom that *humans* generalize their learning or reasoning beyond text. We are the OG bots. On 4/7/23 09:15, Steve Smith wrote: These findings counter the conventional wisdom that LLMs are merely statistical next-word predictors and can’t

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Smith
On 4/7/23 10:48 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote: As I wrote the prompt, I was wondering how it might deal with the ambiquity of color for these objects. Prompt: What might a fire engine, an apple and a rose have in common ChatGPT4: A fire engine, an apple, and a rose might not appear to have much in

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread Stephen Guerin
Good, now make a short poem in style of Emerson on those themes of love, passion and urgency using the same objects ChatGPT4: In the garden of life's grand design, Where fire engines race and intertwine, With urgency, they rush to quell the flame, Passion's intensity, their purpose to tame.

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread Stephen Guerin
As I wrote the prompt, I was wondering how it might deal with the ambiquity of color for these objects. Prompt: What might a fire engine, an apple and a rose have in common ChatGPT4: A fire engine, an apple, and a rose might not appear to have much in common at first glance, as they belong to

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Smith
SG: Fascinating reflexive example here!   You using chatGPT as a boundary (spanning/negotiation) artifact/object convolved with extant SF writings many (some) of us might be familiar with to help with that spanning/negotiation! Your invocation of both concepts in this exchange had me

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-07 Thread Steve Smith
I tripped over (in my Gnewsfeed) an article that seemed to speak more clearly to some of my maunderings: 8 Potentially Surprising Things To Know About Large Language

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-06 Thread glen
riginal message From: Prof David West Date: 4/5/23 1:55 AM (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: [FRIAM] AI possibilities Based on the flood of stories about ChatAI, it appears:   - they can 'do' math and 'reason' scientificdally   - they can generate essays, term p

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-06 Thread Prof David West
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Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-06 Thread Stephen Guerin
Steve, here's what I would query you wrt this thread on communication. I hit the polite poly first: Summarize two science fiction works that explore the theme of faceted ontologies that create boundary spanning objects that allow communication between wildly different life forms 1.

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-06 Thread glen
issing 33th piano sonata o_O -J. Original message From: Prof David West Date: 4/5/23 1:55 AM (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: [FRIAM] AI possibilities Based on the flood of stories about ChatAI, it appears:    - they can 'do' math and 'reason' scientificdally    - th

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-06 Thread glen
e able to create a new piece of music which sounds almost like Mozart. Finally we can listen to Mozart's lost 28th piano concerto or Beethoven's missing 33th piano sonata o_O -J. Original message From: Prof David West Date: 4/5/23 1:55 AM (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subje

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-06 Thread Steve Smith
I have been reading Jeff Hawkins' _1000 Brains_ which is roughly *his* take on AI from the perspective of the Neuroscience *he* has been doing for a few decades, including building models of the neocortex. What struck me strongly was how much *I* expect anything I'd want to call artificial

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-05 Thread Jochen Fromm
. Original message From: Prof David West Date: 4/5/23 1:55 AM (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: [FRIAM] AI possibilities Based on the flood of stories about ChatAI, it appears:  - they can 'do' math and 'reason' scientificdally  - they can generate essays, term papers, etc

[FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-04 Thread Prof David West
Based on the flood of stories about ChatAI, it appears: - they can 'do' math and 'reason' scientificdally - they can generate essays, term papers, etc. - they can engage in convincing dialog/conversations - as "therapists" - as "girlfriends" (I haven't seen any stories about women