Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

Roger, Thanks for the info and references. As the great philosopher Britney Spears once said, "Why do you have a brain if you're not willing to change it?" So for now, I'll switch my stance from "pro-emergence-in-LLMs" to "I have no idea what's going on." On Tue, 9 May 2023 at 04:25, Roger Critchl

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

This evening's hackernews contribution: https://hai.stanford.edu/news/ais-ostensible-emergent-abilities-are-mirage AI’s Ostensible Emergent Abilities Are a Mirage According to Stanford researchers, large language models are not greater than the sum of their parts. Which is a gloss on https://a

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

Sorry, I forgot to add the url of the interview. (580) The Current State of Artificial Intelligence with James Wang - YouTube On Mon, 8 May 2023 at 08:27, Pieter Steenekamp wrote: > I am very excited about the basic idea that neither Google nor any

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

I am very excited about the basic idea that neither Google nor any Big Tech company has the Moat as per the hackernews reference above. Very interesting around this is the interview with James Wang of Cerebras James Wang about this where he makes a strong case (in my view in any case) that in futur

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

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Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

Oh, the "We Have No Moat" posting is just holding on to the front page of hackernews 24 hours later, 954 comments so far https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35813322 -- rec -- On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 1:01 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 12:57 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > >> A

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 12:57 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > Ah, found the RSS feed that sends text around the paywall. > > -- rec -- > Geoffrey Hinton tells us why he’s now scared of the tech he helped build

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

Ah, found the RSS feed that sends text around the paywall. -- rec -- I met Geoffrey Hinton at his house on a pretty street in north London just four days before the bombshell announcement that he is quitting Google. Hinton is a pioneer of deep learning

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

I don't have the article, but maybe as a second best the following interview with Geoffry Hinton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sitHS6UDMJc On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 08:16, Roger Critchlow wrote: > Merle -- > > I tried, but it's paywalled to me now. > > -- rec -- > > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:39 PM

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

Merle -- I tried, but it's paywalled to me now. -- rec -- On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:39 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > Didn't read Cory's blog, though I'm still laughing at the blurb for Red > Team Blues. > > But I read Geoffrey Hinton's interview with MIT Tech Review yesterday. > > > https://www.t

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

AI is exploding like a birthday cake with too many candles, and it's mind-blowing what machines can do! Yann LeCun and I are on the same wavelength here: the world needs more brains. Thanks to machine intelligence amplifying human intelligence, we're heading towards a new Renaissance, a brighter er

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

Roger, can you send me the full article about Hinton in the M.I.T. review. Thanks. On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:39 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > Didn't read Cory's blog, though I'm still laughing at the blurb for Red > Team Blues. > > But I read Geoffrey Hinton's interview with MIT Tech Review yesterd

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

I think the factorization trick should enable even bigger models on the corporate scale systems. These systems will need to be trained how to collect training sets. Too much work for humans to compile! On May 4, 2023, at 3:39 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:  Didn't read Cory's blog, though I'm st

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

Didn't read Cory's blog, though I'm still laughing at the blurb for Red Team Blues. But I read Geoffrey Hinton's interview with MIT Tech Review yesterday. https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/05/02/1072528/geoffrey-hinton-google-why-scared-ai It's not hype that chatgpt dazzled everyone with a

Re: [FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

I love the graphic! I've had the misfortune of twice jumping on that roller coaster just before the Peak of Inflated Expectation - once for the AI boom/bust of the mid 1980s and once for the dotcom boom/bust of the late 1990s. Jumped on too late to make a killing, but didn't get too badly damaged b

[FRIAM] Cory Doctorow on AI hype vs Crypto Hype

https://doctorow.medium.com/the-ai-hype-bubble-is-the-new-crypto-hype-bubble-74e53028631e I *am* a fan of LLMs (not so much image generators) and blockchain (not so much crypto or NFTs) in their "best" uses (not that I or anyone else really knows what that is) in spite of my intrinsic neoLuddit