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or from my parents. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2023 5:08 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM Yeah, being adopted gives me yet another advantage over you breeder types. ⛧ I run into many situations where people talk a

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Yeah, being adopted gives me yet another advantage over you breeder types. ⛧ I run into many situations where people talk about (dark) intra- and inter-generational patterns in their families. If/when they ask me, I get to bail on the whole conversation ... or participate with no skin in the ga

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That number sounds familiar to me too. I don’t know if it is right. There seem to be very many nonagenarian movie stars and politicians in the papers every day, and I wonder if there really are 50x as many octogenarians at any time. OTOH, my understanding is that the Gompertz ramp (linear i

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30% is much better assuming that being 90 is a reasonable goal. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 6:27 PM Edward Angel wrote: > You can feel better: 0.7 ** 10 ~= 0.028. That's 40% better, although, it’s > hard to believ

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You can feel better: 0.7 ** 10 ~= 0.028. That's 40% better, although, it’s hard to believe that the 0.3 per year is constant for 10 years. Or even correct. The charts from real data seem to show the probability of an 80 year old making it to 90 is 30%. Ed ___ Ed Angel Fou

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>For people it’s somewhere in the 70-80 ... As I approach 80 I'm not happy about this. I read or heard that a person over 80 has about a 0.3 probability of dying each year. I calculated, possibly using incorrect assumptions, that that means that the conditional probability of living to 90 give

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It's not the accumulation of damage and the fault/disease risk associated with such damage that seems like pseudoscience. That's actual science. But it starts to feel pseudo- when used to refine from a big data population size to individual humans (or demographics). The idea you can hop down

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Interesting paper. I'll have to read it more closely. But it doesn't strike me that they address *premature* mortality, whatever that is. I can't help but get a Theseus' Ship vibe. Even if the canalizing risks (welding, sky diving, cholesterol, dehydration, etc.) are all hammered down, I'd expe

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It's not the accumulation of damage and the fault/disease risk associated with such damage that seems like pseudoscience. That's actual science. But it starts to feel pseudo- when used to refine from a big data population size to individual humans (or demographics). The idea you can hop down to

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Eric - I like your introduction of "some kind of Ambivalence Frontier"... I think this also expresses itself in the "close races" we have in politics these days... a vague correlate to what happens with high-scoring competitive games (like basketball) which often end up in close calls with a

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Long a favorite topic of mine. Let me send you a link; almost-surely not the best, but done with ~1min of google searching images: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0233384 See the 5th fig

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I recently watched a documentary on the animals living in Chernobyl, environs and nearby evacuated villages.   The overall theme was that while there was lots of evidence of genetic damage and mutation in individuals, they were still "healthy populations" of many (all?) species finding new bala

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">144 mmol/l with 21% elevated risk of premature mortality". My last test a week ago showed 144! Whew! I guess I have a normal risk for premature mortality. 8^D The concept of "premature death" is flat out ridiculous. But our inability to well-define it raises some interesting questions. • dep

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I got the flu about 10 days ago. I contacted my PCP by email and he did the diagnosis based on a list of symptoms I told him about. I complained that I had no appetite. He said, "You don't need to eat, you need to drink." Even after all this time I still don't feel 100 percent. I lost 6 or 7 p

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There was a hacker news item this morning about maintaining hydration and chronic illness: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(22)00586-2/fulltext those who exceeded 142 mmol/l of serum sodium in middle age got sicker more often later in life. It's the first measureme

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I think a mobility checkup would be more useful than blood tests. See if you can stand on one foot for 10 seconds. Spin you around and measure eye wobble. Measure joint angles in a sit-to-stand test. Etc. Strength and reflex tests would also be useful. I *suppose* cognitive testing trends would

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I get more from this experience? Marcus From: Friam on behalf of glen Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 9:48 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM I've mostly been neutral about "the holidays". But as I age and my productivity ta

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Ha! Yes, anime is a good thing. But the difference between drawing as a hobby and feeling the need (or parents feeling the need) to "sell" the drawings is something else. (By "sell", I don't mean for money.) Re: health in context - Yes, and I feel a bit bad ranting about this young successful w

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Hey! anime is a good thing. Or at least that's what I tell myself with guilty pleasure anime like HighSchool DXD. :P now back to you glen and your rant. So what you're saying is: what the actual [redacted]? It's down to lipservices to fix the issue of people going postal or snapping in some other

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I've mostly been neutral about "the holidays". But as I age and my productivity tanks, I look upon all the little "reports" we get from friends and family with increasing sadness. It used to simply feel odd that "The So-and-so Family" year end report talked about how little Bobby has taken his

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On 12/30/22 1:32 PM, glen wrote: Interesting tangent. As always, I only post when I feel like I have something to disagree with (or fine-tune in a way that might seem contrarian). I feel like the closing on whim or choosing hours that may be inconvenient for a population is how we *should* d

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Interesting tangent. As always, I only post when I feel like I have something to disagree with (or fine-tune in a way that might seem contrarian). I feel like the closing on whim or choosing hours that may be inconvenient for a population is how we *should* do business. There's nothing more in

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OPT Cafe is closed as well. What a way to run a business this is peak Family dining out Time. A new phase of customer service seems to have emerged after COVID.   I have ambiguous feelings about it.   Previously I was a little offended by various examples of businesses not catering well at a

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(insert a stupid joke about tomorrow being saturday) On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 10:52 AM Stephen Guerin wrote: > I'll meet you at saveur > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 9:37 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > >> OPT Cafe is closed as well. What a way to run a business this is peak >> Family dining out Time. Jo

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I'll meet you at saveur On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 9:37 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > OPT Cafe is closed as well. What a way to run a business this is peak > Family dining out Time. John Dobson and I are headed to Saveur which we > have confirmed to be open. It's at the corner of Galileo and cerrillos

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OPT Cafe is closed as well. What a way to run a business this is peak Family dining out Time. John Dobson and I are headed to Saveur which we have confirmed to be open. It's at the corner of Galileo and cerrillos Road downtown. It's next to the new courthouse. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo

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I'm heading to Pecos Trail Cafe. Gorge will appreciate us coming. On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 9:05 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > To my surprise St John's Peterson Center is locked. I've never seen that > before > > As an alternative I'm wondering about the Old Pecos trail Cafe which is on > Old Pecos tr

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To my surprise St John's Peterson Center is locked. I've never seen that before As an alternative I'm wondering about the Old Pecos trail Cafe which is on Old Pecos trail just south of Zia Road. They have excellent food and coffee and lots of room it's about halfway between my house and John Dobso

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If not closed I will be there On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 9:22 PM Edward Angel wrote: > Is there an alternate location if you find it’s closed? Please text or > email me if you find it closed in the morning. I can’t get there until > after 9:30. > > Ed > ___ > > Ed Angel > > Foun

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Is there an alternate location if you find it’s closed? Please text or email me if you find it closed in the morning. I can’t get there until after 9:30. Ed ___ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Comp

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I will be there and leave at 1050a. Are they open? On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:43 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Is anyone planning to be at St John's tomorrow morning? > > Frank > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > -. --- - / ...- .-

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Yeah, I will probably be there. === Tom Johnson Inst. for Analytic Journalism Santa Fe, New Mexico 505-577-6482 === On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:44 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Is anyone planning to be at St John's tomorrow morning? > > Frank > > --- > Frank C.

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See you there, John. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:49 PM John Dobson wrote: > I plan to be there. John Dobson > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:44 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > >> Is anyone planning to be at St John's t

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I plan to be there. John Dobson On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:44 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Is anyone planning to be at St John's tomorrow morning? > > Frank > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- -

[FRIAM] Friday AM

Is anyone planning to be at St John's tomorrow morning? Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe