Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-27 Thread Gillian Densmore
Huh Acording to Sir Douglas Adam life started because some stupenously smart aliens from another dimension that look like mice and talk like chipmunks created the earth and found out the answer to everything is Doom, 42, a beer and a peacpipe. They concluded with the universe supendously large,

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-27 Thread glen
It's very nice to have a bunch of related links packed into a post like that. Thanks, Robert. On 04/26/2016 04:52 PM, Robert Wall wrote: Stephen, Your discussion with Nick Thompson on the essence of Evolution sounds remarkably similar to the pre-Socratic arguments "between" Heraclitus and

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-26 Thread Robert Wall
Stephen, Your discussion with Nick Thompson on the essence of Evolution sounds remarkably similar to the pre-Socratic arguments "between" Heraclitus and Parmenides on Being and Becoming . The modern

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread Stephen Guerin
I composed my email before seeing Eric's post. Having now read his email, I would say let's not get too distracted by Nick Lane's Vital Question for the task we set ourselves at FRIAM. I think Eric's talks bests represents what I was calling the view of life as gradient dissipation and a property

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread Carl
dfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life Nick Lane is terrific. I've read a number of his books -- but not /The Vital Question/ yet. In this talk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLcWfecmZhE> and this talk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb7pZyks_HE> he discusses some of the

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread Stephen Guerin
Nick, I downloaded Nick Lane's Vital Question book a couple months back. From a quick skim I got the sense it was a nice review of much of the work going on around non-equilibrium thermodynamic origin of life explanations by the "Seventh Day Ventists" (eg second law arguments for the emegence of

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Nick, Russ, and all, Far too much here to be able to answer, but I feel this is one I should pick up a little. I am relieved that your question is quite specific: > I am curious to know if others have read this book, and what you might think > of it. I haven't read this book. Maybe

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread Jochen Fromm
07:11 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life Nick Lane is terrific. I've read a number of his books -- but not The Vital Question yet. In this talkĀ and this talk he discusses some of the issues he

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-22 Thread Russ Abbott
Nick Lane is terrific. I've read a number of his books -- but not *The Vital Question* yet. In this talk and this talk he discusses some of the issues he writes about in the book. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at

[FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-22 Thread Nick Thompson
Dear Friammers, Today's meeting of the Mother Church got back to our old discussions of complexity, gradients, and the origin of life. In that connection I urged everybody to read Nick Lane's, THE VITAL QUESTION: Energy, evolution, and the origins of complex life. The fundamental theory is