butting in here...
Nick, Saying that the light is green is reporting an observation.
Saying the light is in a green state is making a statement about the
light as a mechanism. As I said, I think of the notion of state as
identifying a collection of functionalities. So attributing a "green
st
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Never beaten over the head with "hypothetical construct" or "intervening
variable". My notion o
Nick,
> I guess I would call this a functional state. Or perhaps a disposition.
You could also (and equally well--or equally badly) use Lewin's phrase "the
field at the
present time". Or rather, since we do want to talk about existents that
persist in time but
may have different states a
ck
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ilto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve
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> Nick -
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> It would be di
Thanks, Steve. Will ponder all of this. Nick
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Nick -
It would be
Nick
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I would characterize the notion of state in terms of the functiona
I would characterize the notion of state in terms of the functionality that
the thing whose state we are talking about. Depending on its state, it is
does and is capable of doing different things. This is different from
thinking of state in terms of measurements. This sense of state is an
abstract
Nick -
It would be difficult to explain this (Marcus' definition of iteration
vs recursion) to you without teaching you several key computer science
concepts which are not necessarily difficult but are very *specific*.
The first step would be to answer your question of days ago about what a
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