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Feels like an AI-fake, or maybe time erodes us into the worst imaginings of our enemies. -- rec -- On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 12:02 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > I was tempted to dive into the L vs. E as it may apply to psychology and > sociology, but will just offer this instead. Formal deprogrammin

Re: [FRIAM] cults

I was tempted to dive into the L vs. E as it may apply to psychology and sociology, but will just offer this instead. Formal deprogramming! Say the quiet part, H, lol.

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Rather than -emic vs -etic, I prefer Lagrangian vs Eulerian, respectively. This avoids the concept of "inside" vs "outside", which then avoids the scoping issue Marcus raised re: nation vs other types of boundaries. A self-imposed identity is just as imposed as an other-imposed identity. While

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l nucleation of a mind virus. I expect his advocacy above is about creating chaos so that people such as himself are the only ones that have the resources to influence governments. A particularly virulent mind virus (like white supremacy, or 09A) could cross national boundaries and not be impeded b

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how Musk sees it. Marcus -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 6:37 AM To: FriAM Subject: [FRIAM] cults It's been awhile since I've run across a new-to-me cult. But 09A certainly qualifies as a meaty one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/

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let the chips fall where they may.  Perhaps that is how Musk sees it. Marcus -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 6:37 AM To: FriAM Subject: [FRIAM] cults It's been awhile since I've run across a new-

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t; If P is <= 10, maybe better to fan the flames of crazy and let the chips >> fall where they may. Perhaps that is how Musk sees it. >> Marcus >> -Original Message- >> From: Friam On Behalf Of glen >> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 6:37

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inal Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 6:37 AM To: FriAM Subject: [FRIAM] cults It's been awhile since I've run across a new-to-me cult. But 09A certainly qualifies as a meaty one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/28/new-york-satanic

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e they may. Perhaps that is how Musk sees it. > > Marcus > -----Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of glen > Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 6:37 AM > To: FriAM > Subject: [FRIAM] cults > > It's been awhile since I've run across a new-to-me cult

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:37 AM To: FriAM Subject: [FRIAM] cults It's been awhile since I've run across a new-to-me cult. But 09A certainly qualifies as a meaty one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/28/new-york-satanic-cult-764-fbi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles https://www.tandfo

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Glen - A fascinating question as usual and I appreciate the extra background you offer below.  I've contemplated your central conundrum ("the apparent contradiction between fascism and individuality") for most of my life, both from the inside and the outside. I was raised among the ?natural?

[FRIAM] cults

It's been awhile since I've run across a new-to-me cult. But 09A certainly qualifies as a meaty one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/28/new-york-satanic-cult-764-fbi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1057610X.2023.2195065