Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

Speaking for the audience ... Or at least one member, thereof. I have not understood a word any of you guys have said since I introduced the thread a week or so ago. That's Ok. That's great, in fact. It's the nature of the FRIAM beast. I love it when you experts go crazy on this list.

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

Hell hath no fury as those who presume to speak for another... On Feb 23, 2017 11:29 PM, "Nick Thompson" wrote: > All— > > > > If you want to find the Dylan Roof key on your own emotional piano, think > about the last time you indulged yourself in road rage.

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

> > (This is why Csikszentmihalyi's concept of "flow" is useless and annoying > to me.) It's pure nonsense to talk of mind at all. So, it's nonsense to > say that societies act as if with one mind. Wow! Try to be consistent at least. Eh? Who is saying that except you with your previous

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

Gentlemen and audience, The tempest ( Glen) and the captain of a small vessel (Robert) lashed to the mast. Are not in any form of disagreement by their own admissions. OK, from my vantage point in the cold inhospitable North Lands , I sense a salient exchange of cannon fire. Let's look at

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

OK. Yes, thanks, that helps. But I do think you disagree with me, only I may not have made myself clear enough for you to realize we disagree. I'll interleave in the hopes of making my objections in context. On 02/24/2017 01:44 PM, Robert Wall wrote: > The last quote, to me, says that a

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

> > Anyway, so I disagree with the idea that society, as a group, can't be "in > the zone". But I believe that the thoughts inside the members of the > society are not really _shared_ thoughts. The societal groove does not > depend on isomorphic relationships between the insides of the members' >

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

Perhaps you did not see my previous response where I outlined what I think exhibit societal states (yes, at the societal layer, as a whole) of being in the zone. If so, could you explain whether you agree or disagree that those are examples of what you discuss below? If you didn't get the

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

> > It's a mistake to infer that the complicated spaces (the deluded people's > minds/brains/bodies/culture) are the same just because their projections > (the things they say and do) are the same. Yeah, and that is not the same as what I meant for a society being *in the zone* as a whole,

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

Thanks for the link, Jon. http://s3.amazonaws.com/battlecode-releases-2017/releases/specs-1.6.2.html > In a race to be the most benevolent, factions must either donate the most to > the cause, or destroy anyone more altruistic than they are. That last part is hilarious. It reminded me of the

Re: [FRIAM] Wow! He did Good!

So in other words "unducmented workers" People running from Countery X to State/City Here illegally, working (mostly) for cash doing the burn out crappy jobs no sane life form should do? If Njrodic History serves they did (roughly) the same stuff, and were bad ass at it. Correction ARE bad ass

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

I think I anticipated your backhanded strike. >8^D I did this with my (badly mangled) reference to (and skepticism about) the holographic principle ... or behaviorism in psychology ... or hidden markov models ... or state space reconstruction methods ... or by any of a huge number of other