Re: [FRIAM] a real threat

[Alfredo Covaleda Vélez]

It is disheartening to know that the problems of an starving, unhealthy and
futureless humanity can only be solved sending troops. It is not a problem
of each country in particular it is about the world's Status Quo.  Each day
I see more and more signs of a kind of  dystopian world, probably similar
to that predicted by the old cyberpunk science fiction and that  is already
here with low probability to way back

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:07 PM Gary Schiltz 
wrote:

> All we need now is for Mexico to decide to send troops to the border as
> well. Then some yahoo "volunteer border enforcer" standing on the US side
> shoots someone on the other side of the border, maybe even a Mexican troop
> (hey, they all look alike) and voila! the second Mexican American War (or
> at least an international incident).
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:35 PM uǝlƃ ☣  wrote:
>
>> It's important that we don't over-react to Trump's political stunt.  I
>> admit I don't know the laws or how things might eventually play out.  But
>> here's an article that seems to tone down the rhetoric a bit:
>>
>> The US is sending 5,000 troops to the border. Here’s what they can and
>> can’t do.
>>
>> https://www.vox.com/2018/10/29/18026646/military-border-caravan-immigrants-trump-caravan
>> > Border agents will be “in close proximity” to the US troops, but will
>> leave on their own to arrest the spotted migrants. The military won’t be
>> involved in actually detaining any individuals.
>>
>> What's more worrying to me are the presence and behaviors of the
>> self-styled militias who patrol the border with no sanction by any of our
>> governments.  They may be incensed by Trump's political rhetoric and open
>> fire on the migrants.  They'll probably face the legal consequences of such
>> ... but not before hurting innocent people.  It would be nice if the
>> logistics provided by the military could help police our own idiot
>> rednecks.  But my guess is they can't do that either.
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/18 3:34 PM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez wrote:
>> > Just a few minutes ago Trump said it answering questions after his
>> speech.  It is a real threat. I wonder if the nation who says to have the
>> highest mortality in the history of the humanity will let to his government
>> to make a massacre. I hope not.
>> >
>> > https://youtu.be/POlBkXxwZ_w?t=5192
>>
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>>
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Re: [FRIAM] a real threat

[Gary Schiltz]

All we need now is for Mexico to decide to send troops to the border as
well. Then some yahoo "volunteer border enforcer" standing on the US side
shoots someone on the other side of the border, maybe even a Mexican troop
(hey, they all look alike) and voila! the second Mexican American War (or
at least an international incident).

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:35 PM uǝlƃ ☣  wrote:

> It's important that we don't over-react to Trump's political stunt.  I
> admit I don't know the laws or how things might eventually play out.  But
> here's an article that seems to tone down the rhetoric a bit:
>
> The US is sending 5,000 troops to the border. Here’s what they can and
> can’t do.
>
> https://www.vox.com/2018/10/29/18026646/military-border-caravan-immigrants-trump-caravan
> > Border agents will be “in close proximity” to the US troops, but will
> leave on their own to arrest the spotted migrants. The military won’t be
> involved in actually detaining any individuals.
>
> What's more worrying to me are the presence and behaviors of the
> self-styled militias who patrol the border with no sanction by any of our
> governments.  They may be incensed by Trump's political rhetoric and open
> fire on the migrants.  They'll probably face the legal consequences of such
> ... but not before hurting innocent people.  It would be nice if the
> logistics provided by the military could help police our own idiot
> rednecks.  But my guess is they can't do that either.
>
>
> On 11/1/18 3:34 PM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez wrote:
> > Just a few minutes ago Trump said it answering questions after his
> speech.  It is a real threat. I wonder if the nation who says to have the
> highest mortality in the history of the humanity will let to his government
> to make a massacre. I hope not.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/POlBkXxwZ_w?t=5192
>
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>
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Re: [FRIAM] a real threat

[Marcus Daniels]

Could we use the military to play the role of Maxwell’s demon?   But for every 
smart or kind one that wants in push out a dumb or selfish one?  (I know, it’s 
not fair, Mexico shouldn’t be subjected to them.)  Also see the second chart in 
this 
editorial in light of 
this 
research.



On 11/1/18, 5:35 PM, "uǝlƃ ☣"  wrote:



It's important that we don't over-react to Trump's political stunt.  I 
admit I don't know the laws or how things might eventually play out.  But 
here's an article that seems to tone down the rhetoric a bit:



The US is sending 5,000 troops to the border. Here’s what they can and 
can’t do.


https://www.vox.com/2018/10/29/18026646/military-border-caravan-immigrants-trump-caravan

> Border agents will be “in close proximity” to the US troops, but will 
leave on their own to arrest the spotted migrants. The military won’t be 
involved in actually detaining any individuals.



What's more worrying to me are the presence and behaviors of the 
self-styled militias who patrol the border with no sanction by any of our 
governments.  They may be incensed by Trump's political rhetoric and open fire 
on the migrants.  They'll probably face the legal consequences of such ... but 
not before hurting innocent people.  It would be nice if the logistics provided 
by the military could help police our own idiot rednecks.  But my guess is they 
can't do that either.





On 11/1/18 3:34 PM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez wrote:

> Just a few minutes ago Trump said it answering questions after his 
speech.  It is a real threat. I wonder if the nation who says to have the 
highest mortality in the history of the humanity will let to his government to 
make a massacre. I hope not.

>

> https://youtu.be/POlBkXxwZ_w?t=5192



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Re: [FRIAM] a real threat

[uǝlƃ ☣]

It's important that we don't over-react to Trump's political stunt.  I admit I 
don't know the laws or how things might eventually play out.  But here's an 
article that seems to tone down the rhetoric a bit:

The US is sending 5,000 troops to the border. Here’s what they can and can’t do.
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/29/18026646/military-border-caravan-immigrants-trump-caravan
> Border agents will be “in close proximity” to the US troops, but will leave 
> on their own to arrest the spotted migrants. The military won’t be involved 
> in actually detaining any individuals.

What's more worrying to me are the presence and behaviors of the self-styled 
militias who patrol the border with no sanction by any of our governments.  
They may be incensed by Trump's political rhetoric and open fire on the 
migrants.  They'll probably face the legal consequences of such ... but not 
before hurting innocent people.  It would be nice if the logistics provided by 
the military could help police our own idiot rednecks.  But my guess is they 
can't do that either.


On 11/1/18 3:34 PM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez wrote:
> Just a few minutes ago Trump said it answering questions after his speech.  
> It is a real threat. I wonder if the nation who says to have the highest 
> mortality in the history of the humanity will let to his government to make a 
> massacre. I hope not.
> 
> https://youtu.be/POlBkXxwZ_w?t=5192

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Re: [FRIAM] a real threat

[Alfredo Covaleda Vélez]

Morality not mortality, of course. You did understand. Do not play the fool.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:49 PM Alfredo Covaleda Vélez 
wrote:

> Just a few minutes ago Trump said it answering questions after his
> speech.  It is a real threat. I wonder if the nation who says to have the
> highest mortality in the history of the humanity will let to his government
> to make a massacre. I hope not.
>
> https://youtu.be/POlBkXxwZ_w?t=5192
>

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[FRIAM] a real threat

[Alfredo Covaleda Vélez]

Just a few minutes ago Trump said it answering questions after his speech.
It is a real threat. I wonder if the nation who says to have the highest
mortality in the history of the humanity will let to his government to make
a massacre. I hope not.

https://youtu.be/POlBkXxwZ_w?t=5192

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