utomation
fails or is abused by malicious actors).
> 4. Is it worth the effort to also have the documentation site
> for the nightly code (git HEAD)?
I do not think so: changes are slow enough. I think that
automatically extracting _differences_ could be of some use.
But that would require s
nomials.
As Tim wrote, you can do
)set messages autoload on
and see messages about loading various constructors. Note that
loading is lazy, so this gives only messages about actually
used domains and still simple operations lead to loading of
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> When using ')trace )math', we should respect the setting
> '$LINELENGTH' (cab be set by ")set output length"),
> so that we can utilize the wide screen space.
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FRICASsys'. But they indexed info on executable content
and from point of view of tools executable part of 'FRICASsys'
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> > >
> > > CFLAGS is already in 'var_def.mk', so only LDFLAGS is missing there.
> >
> > Yes, it looks so.
>
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> > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 07:15:12PM +0800, Qian Yun wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/2/24 8:13 AM, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > > > On
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> On 9/2/24 8:13 AM, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 10:32:39AM +0800, Qian Yun wrote:
> > > There is this gentoo bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/728048
> > >
> > > The CFLAGS
remove CCF and LDF? (Instead, we give
> CFLAGS/LDFLAGS a default setting.)
AFAICS some setting in CCF may be needed for correct build. So
it is nor clear if we can remove CCF and LDF. Certainly
CFLAGS/LDFLAGS can not serve as a replacement.
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l seems good and ' is not affected
> apparently i.e. no completion after it. So, even with:
>
> fl:DoubleFloat:=12.0
>
> DoubleFloat is correctly tab-completed.
>
> Waldek, what do you think about this addition to
> src/etc/fricas-readline?
I do not use rlwrap w
alization of B(256) should work the same in both
cases (and the same as you used B(256) in the interpeter). There
are known troubles when you pass fancy things to B, but integers
are simple.
Of course, there may be reasons to write code as you did. And it
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> implementation looks somewhat irregular.
I have a little correction to what I wrote above: default output
precision is determined by bit length of mantissa.
eral reading of rules above. Simply, zero is
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Type: Float
Code in FLOAT.spad in not perfect but is _much_ better than old
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>
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> >
> > On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 03:31:57PM +0200, Grégory Vanuxem wrote:
> > > =>
> > > (1) "4.3
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> >>
> >> gives the same "wrong" result.
> >
> > It should be
> >
> > ((*$sTO)(s3, rs1) - rs2)$sTO
&
.
So yes, x * recip(x) = recip(x) * x = e where e is the unit element
for multiplication.
And once you have recip "/" follows logically.
And we also have 'leftRecip' and 'rightRecip' for cases when inverse
works only on one side.
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Well, that would work in exact artithmetic. But the code tries to
work in floating point and this is source of nasty troubles. Also
"normal" rounding mode for pinthing purpoose should be "round to nearest,
even", which is more complicated than simple 'rou
smaller than resolution of the convertion. Arguably in such
case we should round up.
To say the truth we probably do not want separate implementation
of 'toString', issues are exactly the same as in printing code
and solution is likely to be the same.
> Le sam. 27 juil. 2024 à 17:2
Type: String
(18) -> toString(4.3, 20)
(18) "4.3001"
Type: String
Do you want 20 digits (or whatever you specified) or not?
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restDiv(a: ST A, u: A, n: I, k: I, ra: ST A, b: ST A, revc: List A): ST A ==
delay
...
I would write something like
restDiv(a : ST A, u : A, n : I, k : I, ra : ST A, b : ST A,
revc : List A) : ST A == delay
...
It makes sense to run a bit more t
e of variable is a read,
then its initial value is inherited from enclosing scope, but I
suspect that our current code does not follow this rule. A safe
way of coding is to use new variables for anything that you want
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> can you invent a name that sticks to the convention of having full names
> (not abbreviations) in exported functions? Thank you.
You give dependent roots above (177 = 59*3). After eliminating dependent
roots rsimp fails reasonably fast.
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> > > feel such a change will have quite some consequences in different
> > > part of Fri
erning Arthur Ralfs, I do not know why did you
put separate licence file in Axiom. Artur knew Axiom and FriCAS
licence, clearly wanted his code to be included and I included
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rid of calls to 'rootSimp' (instead extend normalization to handle
algebraic kernels). As you noticed 'ratDenom' may be unreliable,
so probably we should replace is by something else in most of algebra.
Concerning 'rootSplit', it make sense to create better implementati
nce you get kernel with
denominator it will stay in the cache till say ')clear all'.
That is one of motivations for recent FunctionSpace change.
It should allow using local caches, so limit pollution to
global cache. And maybe somebody will develop different
caching mechanizm, with n
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> > To comply with the our license, they should have text of the
> > license _somewhere_. Recursive grep for 'Numerical ALgorithms Group'
> > should find it (un
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>
> On 7/4/24 06:41, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 11:18:05PM +0200, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
> > > On 7/3/24 12:19, Qian Yun wrote:
> > > > Well, generally this feels a bit strange
ima could not do, so it was modified. They did not
mention Maxima and of course did not offer source code. AFAIK
GPL allows this (they were just "using" Maxima, but not
"distributing" it).
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ATM it looks that handling of '\spad' command is somewhat inconsitent.
FriCASsys uses '\spad{pi}', probably to get appropriate font and
HyperDoc is doing something wrong with it.
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> > And yes, if I try to compile 'fspace.spad' using similar command to yours
> > (I never compile things in source directory which you did),
>
> Do you me
declares itself just as the juxtaposition of a symbol and a parenthesized
> symbol and not as a function, as it could/should be.
I am not sure what you expect. Clearly output from a formatter needs
parsing to make "logical" sense. And in general we should be working
at higher level
yours
(I never compile things in source directory which you did), then
I see the same error. And no, recompiling 'fspace.spad' from
current trunk using new FriCAS works fine.
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The attached patch should fix the problems above. Concerning
SHOW.LISTING staying after FriCAS exit, AFAICS this was intended.
But it easy to change, just two more callse to 'maybe_delete_file'.
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The result are like:
(16) foo(u) == exp(u)
(2) g((n, t) | n > 1 and odd?(n) and t > 9) == tanh(n) + t
(4) h(x, y) == sin(x y)
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0..2*\%pi)}
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> *.png -text
Yes, I think so. Adding it removes the warning message.
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> > warning: CRLF will be replaced by LF in src/doc/png/2Dctrl.png.
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> > and several similar messages for other .png
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things, so I really prefer to delay this after release.
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> > So you are replacing seqence of definitions by single function. At
> > first glance that looks good (I did not check how it looks in generated
> > book).
>
rather uninteresting. The idea of *how* one can get this
> information can also be conveyed by a less verbose output.
> Any suggestions?
You mean output of 'fullDisplay(fm-%)'? IMO it is reasonable to
completely skip it, it just essentially repeats previous points.
Or replea
cument it.
To expand this a bit: one reasonable replacement would add
expressions + a few built in functions. Another possibility
is to assume availability of interpreter and use interpreter
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OTOH they give information than sometimes is useful.
Also, more general remark: whitespace is cheap and can significantly
improve readability. So, remove whitespace when it is trurely
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n parse-integer, although not
> very satisfactory in the FriCAS sense.
>
> It may not be what I have thought also.
'parse_integer' is intended to be part of new FriCAS compiler and
interpreter. For large integers 'parse_integer' may be significantly
faster than Lisp
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> instead of directly to FRICASsys causes all the problems with hanging
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> > Qian work on HyperDoc and the FriCAS book, that is main thing
> > that needs to be resolved befo
ffort
and will take time. For now I prefer "most conservative"
solution. As I wrote in another mail, I would like to do
new release in June and would like to include the changes.
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Qian work on HyperDoc and the FriCAS book, that is main thing
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or trigonomotric form. Not so when expressed purely in terms
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ple precision routines) and that leads to natural loss
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issue about floating point inaccuracy: this is huge topic, was
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> - ++ where \spad{-b/2 <= r < b/2}.
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put precise statement somewhere, but description of 'Browse' does
not look like good place. And such change is independent of other
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e removed as well?
Well, there are several commands in HyperDoc protocol that are
currently unused. Some may be obsolte now, bit most were meant
to be used from Spad code. I started rewrite of Hyperdoc part
in FRICASsys in Spad (currently I have version where about 10%
of code is in Spad and
#x27; stays after FriCAS proper has quit,
07b4d99eb6c41443711654c65f0e8f66e7bf6c00 works OK.
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window. Browse window vanished when I moved cursor into it.
It seems that most details does not matter, but it is important to
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> > To put it
> > differently, for me interesting part is sending some FriCAS data
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> On 5/31/24 00:38, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 07:43:30PM +0800, Qian Yun wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/29/24 22:51, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > > >
ial. I mean, to build OutputForm you need to
be able to dissect data into parts, recursively convert each part to
OutputForm and combinie then back. If this process of dissection
is too complicated, then what useful can you do with such data?
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>
> On 5/29/24 22:51, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
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> > first build went fine, but a few later failed. Actually, it looks
> > worse than previous version where probability of success looked
> > higher.
in OutputFormTools. In principle 'precondition'
could be replaced by a user function.
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tedly, creating new domain only to have different output
is clumsy. In principle we could have more options at
OutputForm level. OTOH bypassing OutputForm is likely to
lead to _less_ control because is such case places needing
changed bahaviour would be spread out and hard to find and
influenc
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> Web browser. I am not against OutoutForm, not at all.
It is GnuDraw and it is included in FriCAS for several years.
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> > > > > What's its CPU model and how many threads are you using to build
> > > > > the book?
> > > >
> > > > Quad core C
xprIfTrue ;
exprIfFalse)'. I do not think that using C syntax for it would be
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> means "zero?(real(x)) and zero?(imag(x))", how can im=0 happen in the
> commented case?
Take x = 2
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range code to elliminate them.
And it is easy to see why this helps: generic code would have to
use SPADCALL to acces 'real' and 'imag'. In 'Complex' representation
is visible so code can use access to record components which is
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> > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 07:10:35PM +0200, Grégory Vanuxem wrote:
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> > > In fact, Void return value instead of a Record, I forgot a branch.
hat triggers this it it hard to say who
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> On 5/27/24 10:00, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 08:50:31AM +0800, Qian Yun wrote:
> > > OK, what's the version of texlive on this old machine?
> >
> > epstopdf has inside com
just did 'make book', that is serial
build.
>
> - Qian
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> On 5/27/24 07:37, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
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> > > I'd like to upstream my improvements to the reference book.
> >
> > I fetched yo
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>
> I fetched your branch. Book builds fine on new machine, but failed
> on my old on
lone.h, graph/viewman/viewman.h:
>
> #define check(code) checker(code,__LINE__,"")
>
> Also I don't like its overhead when we only read a few bytes,
> I hope in the future we can avoid the overhead if we are
> building in release mode (aka when there is no DEBUG
to 'epstopdf' like:
epstopdf tmp/3DOptCf3.VIEW/image.ps --outfile=tmp/3DOptCf3.pdf
After fixing this build failed later with latex error, probably
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arguments (that is Type). So it is no surprise that there were no
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> > On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 01:57:45PM +0200, Grégory Vanuxem wrote:
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> > The function to start FriCAS is 'fricas_restart'
move uses of "fricas_sprintf_to_buf".
But why do you want to remove such uses?
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On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:13:10PM +0800, Qian Yun wrote:
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> On 5/24/24 06:32, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
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> > I am not sure. At least we world need proper dependencies. Most of
> > those files are categories. We compile categories because compiling
> > may
memory leakage in 'funView2D'/'funView3D'
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> (if you run "title" in a loop)
It is good to fix buffer overflow. But you also remove error
checking (use of 'check'). Admited, this is minimal error
checking, just printing error message, but this is better
categories. We compile categories because compiling
may need to load compiled categories. And compiling a category need
categories that it uses. Our list of categories to compile is sorted
so that dependencies are compiled first.
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OMPILE-FILE', and most of
other lower level calls is made during Spad compilation.
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no difference. What _may_ matter is order of
initialization. In particular FriCAS performs some initializations
before dumping image. But several thing do not survive to
restarted image, so need to be done later, after start of new image.
> To resume, since I suspect that different thread i
e to output factorial
> differently.
'display' will set '%display' property to value that you give.
But this value will affect translation to OutputForm, so all
formatters.
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