Re: [fricas-devel] first and last are "BOTH a variable and a literal"
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 8:00 AM, Bill Page wrote: > Actually the message "Semantic Errors" occurs 35 times during a > normal successful build of FriCAS. Many but not all of these are > due to something being "BOTH a variable and a literal". Clearly > these are not really "errors". At most this might be just a helpful > warning but I cannot see any situation in SPAD where treating > something as both a variable and a literal ... could cause a problem. > In fact it is not really clear what might be > meant by this message. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FriCAS - computer algebra system" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to fricas-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to fricas-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/fricas-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [fricas-devel] first and last are "BOTH a variable and a literal"
Bill Page wrote: > > If I use the names 'first' and 'last' in a spad file I get a message: > >Semantic Errors: > [1] last is BOTH a variable and a literal > [2] first is BOTH a variable and a literal > ... > > What does this mean? In spite of the "semantic error" the code > compiles and runs as expected. > > If I replace 'first' with a different name e.g. 'first2' and 'last' > with 'last2' then there are no such errors. So far as I know 'first' > and 'last' are not reserved words in spad. This is mainly due to using the same name for variables and record fields. Original authors of Spad compiler for same reason decided that this is an error. But AFAICS there are no problems due to this so this is accepted, but still produces an error message. -- Waldek Hebisch -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FriCAS - computer algebra system" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to fricas-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to fricas-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/fricas-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [fricas-devel] first and last are "BOTH a variable and a literal"
Actually the message "Semantic Errors" occurs 35 times during a normal successful build of FriCAS. Many but not all of these are due to something being "BOTH a variable and a literal". Clearly these are not really "errors". At most this might be just a helpful warning but I cannot see any situation in SPAD where treating something as both a variable and a literal. In fact it is not really clear what might be meant by this message. According to the build log there are 56 instances of using a symbol as both a variable and a literal: algebraicGcd2: pss1 is BOTH a variable and a literal algebraicGcd3a: pss1 is BOTH a variable and a literal coerce: arrows is BOTH a variable and a literal common: contents is BOTH a variable and a literal common: name is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneArrow: en is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneArrow: mode is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneArrow: offset is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneArrow: size is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneArrows: mode is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneArrows: size is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneArrow: st is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneLine: en is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneLine: st is BOTH a variable and a literal createSceneNamedPoints: np is BOTH a variable and a literal ddfact: degree is BOTH a variable and a literal ddFact: degree is BOTH a variable and a literal ddfactor: degree is BOTH a variable and a literal do_poly_integer0: pss1 is BOTH a variable and a literal eval: a is BOTH a variable and a literal eval_and_solve: pss1 is BOTH a variable and a literal eval: b is BOTH a variable and a literal eval: c is BOTH a variable and a literal eval: d is BOTH a variable and a literal factorUP: x is BOTH a variable and a literal factor: x is BOTH a variable and a literal factor: y is BOTH a variable and a literal finitePoset: struct1 is BOTH a variable and a literal FloatingPointSystem: struct1 is BOTH a variable and a literal forLoop: body is BOTH a variable and a literal gen_exp: x is BOTH a variable and a literal gen_exp: y is BOTH a variable and a literal HANKP: rels is BOTH a variable and a literal inferFromRelations: rels is BOTH a variable and a literal jacobi2polypq : a is BOTH a variable and a literal jacobi2polypq : b is BOTH a variable and a literal jacobi2polypq : c is BOTH a variable and a literal jacobi2polypq : d is BOTH a variable and a literal lift_rightfactor: x is BOTH a variable and a literal listream_coefsop: x is BOTH a variable and a literal monomials1: c is BOTH a variable and a literal monomials1: k is BOTH a variable and a literal mul is BOTH a variable and a literal orientedFacet: mul is BOTH a variable and a literal proportional?: a is BOTH a variable and a literal proportional?: b is BOTH a variable and a literal proportional?: c is BOTH a variable and a literal proportional?: d is BOTH a variable and a literal ramification_of: x is BOTH a variable and a literal reducedSystem: vec is BOTH a variable and a literal relatorTables: rels is BOTH a variable and a literal separateFactors: degree is BOTH a variable and a literal sepFact1: degree is BOTH a variable and a literal sepfact: degree is BOTH a variable and a literal validate: last is BOTH a variable and a literal xmlAttribute: value is BOTH a variable and a literal -- These function names before the : above are not so useful but it would have been a bit difficult to extract actual file names from the grep. Anyway, the point is that if these really are not errors, then the compiler should not flag them as such. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FriCAS - computer algebra system" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to fricas-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to fricas-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/fricas-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [fricas-devel] first and last are "BOTH a variable and a literal"
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Raymond Rogers wrote: > On 07/11/2018 03:15 PM, Bill Page wrote: > ... > If I replace 'first' with a different name e.g. 'first2' and 'last' > with 'last2' then there are no such errors. So far as I know > 'first' and 'last' are not reserved words in spad. > It seems like 'first' and 'last' are imported as literals from the List domain where they are used in 'elt' to provide the notation 'x.first' and 'x.last'. These are exactly equivalent to the functions 'first x' and 'last x' also exported by List. > In other contexts "first" and "last" are list operators, getting > the first and last item; or in some cases a pointer. They work > as operators in fricas. Yes of course. These are operators that are exported by the List domain constructor. The List domain constructor also exports another other called 'elt' which can also be denoted by just a '.'. 'x.last' is exactly equivalent to 'elt(x,last)'. > I would avoid trying to use them as literals FriCAS already uses them as literals. In my code I did not use them as literals but I did define new functions with the same name. This triggered the error message because I also use variables of type 'List'. > and think they should be reserved and defined. I disagree. > Personally I wouldn't trust "overloading" them either. Why? FriCAS does this extensively. > Basically I think that they come down (up?) from Lisp. > No, that is not the case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FriCAS - computer algebra system" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to fricas-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to fricas-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/fricas-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [fricas-devel] first and last are "BOTH a variable and a literal"
On 07/11/2018 03:15 PM, Bill Page wrote: If I use the names 'first' and 'last' in a spad file I get a message: Semantic Errors: [1] last is BOTH a variable and a literal [2] first is BOTH a variable and a literal ... What does this mean? In spite of the "semantic error" the code compiles and runs as expected. If I replace 'first' with a different name e.g. 'first2' and 'last' with 'last2' then there are no such errors. So far as I know 'first' and 'last' are not reserved words in spad. In other contexts "first" and "last" are list operators, getting the first and last item; or in some cases a pointer. They work as operators in fricas. I would avoid trying to use them as literals and think they should be/reserved/ and /defined/. Personally I wouldn't trust "overloading" them either. Basically I think that they come down (up?) from Lisp. Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FriCAS - computer algebra system" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to fricas-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to fricas-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/fricas-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[fricas-devel] first and last are "BOTH a variable and a literal"
If I use the names 'first' and 'last' in a spad file I get a message: Semantic Errors: [1] last is BOTH a variable and a literal [2] first is BOTH a variable and a literal ... What does this mean? In spite of the "semantic error" the code compiles and runs as expected. If I replace 'first' with a different name e.g. 'first2' and 'last' with 'last2' then there are no such errors. So far as I know 'first' and 'last' are not reserved words in spad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FriCAS - computer algebra system" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to fricas-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to fricas-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/fricas-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.