Re: (long and repetitive) Re: [Fsf-india] Freedom, affordable costs...

2002-04-11 Thread Ranjit Babu
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Pappu wrote: All other factors being same (free software may be in a worse state in some cases) Freedom IS the ONLY advantage that can get free software any where, in a any kind of market (rich or poor). When we talk of freedom, we primarily mean the freedom to

Re: [Fsf-india] Freedom, affordable costs... beer, freespeech

2002-04-11 Thread Khuzaima A. Lakdawala
Seems that the financial power of the Proprietary Software industry to undercut Free Software in a long battle, when it (the PS industry) is sufficiently threatened, has not been appreciated. The *single* largest proprietary software company's market capitalization is larger than many

Re: [Fsf-india] Freedom, affordable costs...

2002-04-11 Thread Pappu
On Thursday, 11 April 2002 13:16:54 +0530, Ranjit Babu wrote: When we talk of freedom, we primarily mean the freedom to modify code and use it without being policed. There are four freedoms that has to be available, to make a software free software. 1) the freedom to use the software

[Fsf-india] From free beer to free speech?

2002-04-11 Thread VaRuN SiNhA
When I first started out with GNU software, I didn't know any programming, I didn't have a clue about freedom (except what my 9th Standard History and Civics book told me). I just wanted to try out something new. As I kept exploring the world of the GNU and GNU inspired, I realized the vast

[Fsf-india] Freedom

2002-04-11 Thread Tapan S. Parikh
From another perspective, wouldn't the very nature of *free software* (being open in design and 'free' in replicability) result in the pulling down of costs? I am not sure how this will happen. Could you please explain? The way software companies (and many other knowledge-centric

Re: [Fsf-india] From free beer to free speech?

2002-04-11 Thread Pappu
On Thursday, 11 April 2002 16:26:49 +0530, VaRuN SiNhA wrote: an upgrade to make my system work better with Linux. What about the rest of the OS? Let us suppose, we harp about FS as free beer. Get people attracted to it because of it's low or zero cost. No. Proprietary software can do

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2002-04-11 Thread Gopal.V
If memory serves me right, VaRuN SiNhA wrote: When I first started out with GNU software, I didn't know any programming, I didn't have a clue about freedom (except what my 9th Standard History and Civics book told me). I just wanted to try out something new. Same here , I got my first Linux

[Fsf-india] Software writers and patents... call to open up Windows

2002-04-11 Thread Frederick Noronha
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Software Writers Patently Enraged (Politics 2:00 a.m. PDT) http://go.hotwired.com/news/politics/0,1283,51689,00.html/wn_ascii A new claim over patent infringement creates an uproar among software developers, who believe the

[Fsf-india] Four more questions...

2002-04-11 Thread Raju Mathur
Very cogent arguments from both sides of the fence, so let me also put in my 2-penny worth. To summarise, Fred argues that in India (and many other countries) the cost aspect of free software is the most important criterion for using it. Pappu (and other free software advocates on this list)